Posted on 04/09/2020 9:49:35 AM PDT by Mariner
Yesterday's thread here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3833043/posts?page=1
Well, it looks like WE had an almost 500 case count increase day over day today. And our deaths nearly 50% increase.
Better testing maybe?
Or all the walmart/kroger/sams/costco mash ups 2 weeks ago over toilet paper and bread flour...
And the party barges on the rez (one reason for the shutdown was the party barge conglomeration on the rez).
Virginia’s state lab is one of the first in the country to sequence samples of virus that causes COVID-19
If you’re sick of the non-informative news media (including Rush, Hannity, Fox, etc.), watch this guy’s video for excellent daily updates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEubPR36pzk
He has a Phd from Duke University in epidemiology. He’s been accurate on this for two months now and consistently providing great insight into both the medical and economic impact of this crisis.
Check him out and let me know what you think.
I found him online about 40 days ago and been watching since.
Preferably in the nude. And since many have been blessed with an abundance of extra flab and skin nowadays, the exposure time could easily be cut in half ! ;)
“The thing that seems lost on the flu bros is the 60,000 projected death toll is because of the measures being taken right now. If we kept society functioning as normal the death toll would be worse, much worse.”
Another thing I can tell you about Rush lately is that he is constantly poopooing this exact argument and instead saying the number is lower because of herd immunity.
Rush, you don’t know that, and your ignorant AF opinion could get people killed.
Ya.
No, that’s a stressful video title.
Not going there.
Going to to start some winter squash instead.
Wow, Rush should just shut up about the virus, but he can’t because this is the only story right now. This is a novel virus there is no herd immunity right now. I hope Rush’s older listeners are listening to Tucker and others to balance out what he is spewing.
All talk current event show hosts are total blowhards. Their only purpose is to promote themselves to say “ see how great I am”. They are as bad as politicians, why would you listen to pure crap. Hell I won’t even listen to Trump, though I totally support him. Most of the time I didn’t listen to Reagan, though I worked for him and a few my lines were used in his speeches. Now his jokes, that is a different matter, classy and funny as hell.
If you have to learn something from a talk show blowhard or politician your education was sadly neglected. If you say, well I only do it to see how the political winds are blowing, you’ve never been in a storm, or politics.
Their latest two part presentation, "What Will The Post-Coronavirus World Look Like?", gives much food for thought:
Economic Shockwaves: How the Coronavirus is Impacting our Future
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG7KHglCI9Q
What Will The Post-Coronavirus World Look Like?
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20TvmEclBg
texags:
Marcus Aurelius12:29pAG
First experience with it. Patient with COVID-19 cytokine storm- typical ARDS high support vent. Fever, all typical inflammatory numbers climbing. Toci (IL-6 inhibitor) at 4mg/kg (to try to preserve drug - normal 8mg/kg dose) given. Next day. All inflammatory markers markedly lower. Patient self extubated and has remained off the vent with O2 support. Promising. Pure anecdote but thought I’d share.
‘patient self extubated’...
Aie.
“Measles R0 is 12-15 we never shut the nation down.”
We have an effective vaccine. You needed it to even go to public school, even though as a childhood disease it was not particularly deadly (0.01% for children). In the population at large it has the same lethality as the flu - yet every child is required to be vaccinated for it.
When CCP-19 is a childhood disease and/or we have an effective vaccine that every child is required to take as an infant, you might make the comparison.
Additionally, there are issues with asymptomatic transmission of CCP-19, where it is rare to nonexistent among those infected with measles.
As for the R0 of any disease, above a certain point it doesn’t really matter. Exponentially infecting an entire population in days or weeks or even months is still too much for our HCS to handle.
Imagine if measles appeared for the first time now. No immunity and a very high transmission rate. I suspect we’d take similar measures. Prior to the vaccination program (1963) there were only half a million cases of measles annually - due to large scale herd immunity and the much slower and lower levels of mass transit. About 400 to 500 deaths per year resulted. Affecting the usual victims most - some of the very young and a lot of the old and typically killing indirectly by suppressing the immune systems of its victims and thus allowing secondary infections like pneumonia to do the dirty work.
We have about that many cases of CCP-19 in the US right now (confirmed, never mind the uncounted asymptomatics and those still incubating) and over 30 times as many deaths already. More people died in NYC today than from an entire year of measles in the whole country prior to the vaccine.
It’s not the measles, either.
The hell you say...Texans! :)
Ok.....I have to ask....what is Flubro?
“why is the US at only 24K recovered? Is this a reporting issue or is there something else”
Somewhat a reporting issue, but this disease takes so long to resolve that recoveries will occur slowly over weeks and even months. There are still 70-80 folks from the Diamond Princess that have not yet recovered.
And the standards for “recovered” are pretty subjective. Kicked out of the hospital might be a more accurate description. Plus, in SK some 90 “recovered” folks have relapsed or been reinfected. Were they recovered and got reinfected, or did the virus go dormant for a while? Both seem to be possible.
FRENCH HOSPITAL STOPS HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE TREATMENT FOR COVID-19 PATIENT OVER MAJOR CARDIAC RISK
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-france-heart-cardiac-1496810
https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3099401/50
IHME model way off in Italy and Spain predicting the decrease of deaths per day after the peak...
It is decreasing deaths too fast..as I pointed out before the model may have been wrong with the highest daily peak of deaths but I think it is also off because it decreases the daily deaths too fast..the slope is to steep
Spain
https://covid19.healthdata.org/spain
Italy
https://covid19.healthdata.org/italy
some of this data is plugged into the runs of the US models so it will be interesting to see if changes in later runs
Just saw this post myself. Tocilimuzab. I am beginning to hear some promising things on this. Probably still limited in availability., but seems to work better than hcq when patients are in critical condition.
Same doctor is getting mixed results with hcq, along with other docs...my guess it’s not the mixed regimen being recommended on this board.
Last time I looked, the UK stopped reporting recovered. Or at least worldometers.info has for the UK.
MI: COVID-19 April 9
Deaths: 1076 (+117)
Cases: 21,504 (+1158)
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