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To: Nifster

“Measles R0 is 12-15 we never shut the nation down.”

We have an effective vaccine. You needed it to even go to public school, even though as a childhood disease it was not particularly deadly (0.01% for children). In the population at large it has the same lethality as the flu - yet every child is required to be vaccinated for it.

When CCP-19 is a childhood disease and/or we have an effective vaccine that every child is required to take as an infant, you might make the comparison.

Additionally, there are issues with asymptomatic transmission of CCP-19, where it is rare to nonexistent among those infected with measles.

As for the R0 of any disease, above a certain point it doesn’t really matter. Exponentially infecting an entire population in days or weeks or even months is still too much for our HCS to handle.

Imagine if measles appeared for the first time now. No immunity and a very high transmission rate. I suspect we’d take similar measures. Prior to the vaccination program (1963) there were only half a million cases of measles annually - due to large scale herd immunity and the much slower and lower levels of mass transit. About 400 to 500 deaths per year resulted. Affecting the usual victims most - some of the very young and a lot of the old and typically killing indirectly by suppressing the immune systems of its victims and thus allowing secondary infections like pneumonia to do the dirty work.

We have about that many cases of CCP-19 in the US right now (confirmed, never mind the uncounted asymptomatics and those still incubating) and over 30 times as many deaths already. More people died in NYC today than from an entire year of measles in the whole country prior to the vaccine.

It’s not the measles, either.


112 posted on 04/09/2020 12:18:39 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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IHME model way off in Italy and Spain predicting the decrease of deaths per day after the peak...

It is decreasing deaths too fast..as I pointed out before the model may have been wrong with the highest daily peak of deaths but I think it is also off because it decreases the daily deaths too fast..the slope is to steep

Spain
https://covid19.healthdata.org/spain

Italy
https://covid19.healthdata.org/italy

some of this data is plugged into the runs of the US models so it will be interesting to see if changes in later runs


117 posted on 04/09/2020 12:25:25 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: calenel

Measles has not always had a vaccine.


164 posted on 04/09/2020 1:48:42 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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