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Corona Virus Daily Thread #34

Posted on 04/01/2020 9:55:37 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3830232/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: catsinfected; ccp; ccpvirus; chinavirus; livethread; virus; wuhan
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To: datura

Well...
Thery also put the post on Hubei territory.
The report is true, nut not accurate.

It’s like Va putting troops in NC.


621 posted on 04/02/2020 12:25:14 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: blueplum

CALIFORNIA

Bay Area - Alameda County

To fight coronavirus, Fremont companies turn to make test kits, ventilators

...the city fast-tracked its zoning permit process two weeks ago — cutting it from around four months to less than a week — to let more than 115 biotech companies make COVID-19 supplies.
SFChronicle
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/to-fight-coronavirus-fremont-companies-turn-to-make-test-kits-ventilators/ar-BB122Jmz

San Mateo County

DALY CITY (KPIX 5) — Nurses at Seton Medical Center in Daly City are planning a protest at noon Thursday because they say they are critically low on personal protective equipment (PPE).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/desperate-for-protective-equipment-seton-medical-center-nurses-plan-thursday-protest/ar-BB123zkL

Fresno -
First homeless patient tests positive for coronavirus in Fresno
Fresno Bee
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/first-homeless-patient-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-fresno/ar-BB123fXD

Los Angeles -

Garcetti authorizes shutting off utilities to nonessential businesses violating Safer at Home
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/garcetti-authorizes-shutting-off-utilities-to-nonessential-businesses-violating-safer-at-home/ar-BB122YCn

Coronavirus: California Releases Model Predicting Peak In Mid-May
...A model from the University of Washington shows deaths in California could peak at the end of April/beginning of May with about 122 new deaths per day, and around 5,000 dead by the end of summer.
CBS LA
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-california-releases-model-predicting-peak-in-mid-may/ar-BB123w4d

More than 200 L.A. County sheriff’s employees quarantined since coronavirus outbreak
LA Times
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-200-la-county-sheriffs-employees-quarantined-since-coronavirus-outbreak/ar-BB122VPF

Riverside County -
Riverside County has reported 58 new COVID-19 cases, raising the county’s total to 429 cases as of Wednesday afternoon.

San Diego -
SD Mayor Orders Vacant City Properties Be Made Available for COVID-19 Patients
https://timesofsandiego.com/politics/2020/04/01/sd-mayor-orders-vacant-city-properties-be-made-available-for-covid-19-patients/


622 posted on 04/02/2020 12:35:30 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: datura
That may be the primary cause of transfer. Anywhere ACE2 is expressed would relate to systemic infection.

This particular virus I suspect has other modes of infection in the olfactory pathway and potentially to neurological effects.

Just pieces of data here and there that show non-ACE2 locations of infection.

SARs1 was known for causing kidney damage and failure.
623 posted on 04/02/2020 12:38:53 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: blueplum

MedCram Lecture
Dr. Roger Seheult
Mar 31, 2020

Coronavirus Pandemic Update 47: Searching for Immunity Boosters & Possible Lessons From Spanish Flu

As global COVID-19 infections continue to increase rapidly, Dr. Seheult continues his discussion on possible strategies to promote a robust immune system, including a nod to the past with hydrotherapy techniques. Interestingly, these techniques were used during the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 and there are reports about a significant benefit to patients who participated. Initiating studies or attaining data from randomized controlled trials for techniques practiced in the “pre-antibiotic era” is a challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1LHgyfPPQ8


624 posted on 04/02/2020 12:39:07 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: mrsmith

Government in China is completely foreign to our ideas. The city government wields great power, and each Chinese citizen has a “city card” that identifies their hometown. This card also controls your travel ability, where you can live, your rate of pension, and when you can retire. Shoot, you can’t even buy a train or bus fare without showing your city card. If you’re not allowed to go to the destination you request, you are denied travel by the kiosk. Your photo is taken, do not attempt the travel.

Provincial government takes all economic data from their cities, and reports to Beijing. I have little experience with this level of Chinese government.

Then there is the PLA. The PLA is controlled by Beijing ONLY, and they answer directly to XiJinping. Provincial governors are powerless against them.

At the top of the food chain in the PLA is their secret police - loosely called WuJing. These soldiers and assassins are above the PLA as our Delta force in some ways - they are the best trained, the best equipped, and are feared even by Politburo members. They are the final arbiter in China. Think KGB on steroids with some PCP on the side.

It is impossible to equate our system of military/police/National Guard with China. When you’re in China, you seldom see police or PLA. But when neighbors or relatives disappear, that is where they went. Good luck finding them. Ever.

Beijing relaxed the travel codes on Hubei, and 3 million of them fled almost overnight. Given that their tests are woefully inaccurate, their neighbors don’t want them to be leaving and starting the infections again.


625 posted on 04/02/2020 12:46:37 AM PDT by datura
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To: datura

Yeah, it’s different there.
But provincial borders still matter.


626 posted on 04/02/2020 12:54:21 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

The only border control I’ve ever seen there is at the edge of cities. All roads have gates, manned by PLA, and to the locals this is normal. The only Provincial borders I have ever crossed by road were between Guangxi and Fujian, and I saw no gates.

Not that they can’t put them up in a few minutes!

I was last in China in 2018.


627 posted on 04/02/2020 1:03:24 AM PDT by datura
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To: Mariner

probably little-white-lie in-home bible study type get togethers. Folks thinking well I’m not sick, and they’re my friends and say they’re not sick, and it’s not church after all, so I’ll go... and there’s a seed, also thinking well I’m not sick....


628 posted on 04/02/2020 1:17:31 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

Tocilizumab, also known as atlizumab... is a humanized monoclonal antibody against the interleukin-6 receptor (IL-6R).

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/27/breaking-tolicizumab-shown-effective-hydroxychloroquine-treating-coronavirus-patients-doctors-say/


629 posted on 04/02/2020 2:37:27 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

at 5:10-

“90% of medical supplies being shipped into Europe are being shipped from Wuhan” according to HKET. “Mainland media reported on the 28th that there were 2 Chinese and European trains from Wuhan and Chengdu each morning carrying a large amount of medical supplies to Europe.”
and, from the NYT: “...Sunday [was] the first of 22 scheduled flights that White House officials say will funnel much-needed goods to the United States as it battles...”

Epoch Times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5rTalmGTOA


630 posted on 04/02/2020 3:11:11 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: calenel

Maybe some FReeper has the time to figure out how much hospital capacity the US has built or added (2 different figures) in the last week or so. That’d be an interesting number.


631 posted on 04/02/2020 3:55:14 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: Mariner

Thank you for Corona Virus Daily Thread #34! (Sorry for the late response.)


632 posted on 04/02/2020 4:27:54 AM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel." - Proverbs 20:15)
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To: blueplum

Thanks for the links. Mainly the last one, as it is the UV I’m particularly curious about.

I wonder what the penetrance of 254 nm UV is in clear water? Or maybe that doesn’t matter much, as in 6 hours I’d guess all the water in a small bottle unevenly warmed would have slowly circulated near the sun-side of the bottle several times.

If we get a warm day I might check the temperature of such a bottle out in the sun. The article neglects to say “how warm”. For other items it appears 150 deg F for an hour should be plenty. I’m sure the effect is excellent if the object to be sterilized is placed on any surface that typically gets warm or hot in the sun, such as the hood of a car. So, for any item that can “take the heat”, so to speak, it should be easy to sun-cook any virus on it in short order. Just be sure some part of the item doesn’t melt. ;-)


633 posted on 04/02/2020 4:44:55 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: RaceBannon

they wont keep trying anymore.

You do get an honest try, but if you dont start by the time they get to the hospital, they stop trying.

they wont bring you inside to keep trying.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/coronavirus-nyc-emts-stop-taking-cardiac-arrest-patients-to-hospitals/


634 posted on 04/02/2020 5:17:58 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/


635 posted on 04/02/2020 5:20:46 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: datura

This is completely consistent with what I’m hearing from my Chinese friends. The spread never stopped. China just stopped responding.


636 posted on 04/02/2020 5:44:27 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: datura

Before the lockdown, in early January, 5-7 million left wuhan and Hubei. They returned to their families in the provinces. That’s why there factories there have had a hard time getting back up and running. Factories around Shanghai are back up. So is Shenzhen and Suzhou. But demand is way way down. Exports are off by 50%. Nothing to do, people go back to their original provinces.


637 posted on 04/02/2020 5:49:14 AM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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To: Mariner

“Professional has a sole objective: to disrupt. The more you engage with him the more disruption you will get.”

Agree, it’s well beyond debating. I’m back to my skipping over of trolls, where I will neither read what the Troll says, or what any of us say in response. I do have other things to do today.


638 posted on 04/02/2020 5:50:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: mrsmith

“Actually, I am curious at his motivation.”

My take with these trolls has always been the same as people who claim the moon landings were fake.

They make the claim to get attention, as they’re not otherwise getting any - knowing, full well, what they say is false. Sort of an ego trip for them.


639 posted on 04/02/2020 5:52:46 AM PDT by BobL
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To: firebrand; LilFarmer

With the treadle machine, just get it started with your hand as you start to push with your feet. Won’t be a problem at all.


640 posted on 04/02/2020 6:01:20 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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