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Economy Panic
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Posted on 03/30/2020 8:08:30 AM PDT by DouglasKC

Have you noticed something?

There are a growing number of Americans who are in a panic about the economy.

Cries of "the economy will never recover if we're shut down too much longer" abound. Wails about "this will be worse than the great depression if it continues" are flooding social media.

This is despite President Trump's pronouncements that our economy will rebound quickly. President Trump believes that there is pent up demand that will explode once restrictions are lifted.

At least with the corona virus there was good reason to be concerned. It has ripped through other countries causing every government in the world to react in a similar way: institute measures to slow the spread so the medical system isn't overwhelmed. Every government has taken the calculus that doing nothing to combat the virus will hurt their economies in the long term. So they've taken short term economic pain to insure this doesn't happen.

Around the world and especially in the United States this strategy seems to be working so far.

Yet the panicky people who are worrying about the economy often look at the good results of what our government has done so far and say "See!! I told you the virus wasn't so bad!". They want to throw open the doors right now because they are fearful of what will happen with the economy if we don't. They have apocalyptic visions of President Trump presiding over a weak America while liberals gleefully dance on America's grave.

Yet stocks are once again on the rise. Investors are happy with what the President is doing to combat the virus AND for his vision of the economy. This is largely because before the virus broke President Trump had super-charged our economy. We were the strongest economically than perhaps at any other point in history...and we were getting stronger.

What happened with the virus has ONLY worked out in Trump's favor. It's now been proven that his vision of America first was absolutely correct. The virus has shown that we can't be dependent on China for manufacturing. It's not in our national interest. It's shown that we MUST control our borders and clamp down on illegal and legal immigration. President Trump's near daily press conferences have shown the American people that he's not the monster the news media portray him as.

Yet for all these positives those who believe that our economy can't take a two or three month slowdown are wringing their hands and screaming like little girls who have seen a spider.

As President Trump says this isn't going to stop us. We're going to bounce back faster and stronger than anyone can imagine...IF we follow his recommendations to combat the virus. If we let up too soon we're back to square one. If too many people figure they know more than President Trump does and flout his recommendations we're also back to square one.

Don't panic. Stick with the program that President Trump and his team have instituted to both combat the virus and keep the economy strong.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: corona; coronavanity; economy; trump; virus
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To: Alberta's Child
I honestly think you have it backwards. I haven’t panicked at all when it comes to the viral outbreak, but I believe the economic consequences will be devastating because the response of the American citizenry has given me no reason to be confident in the future of this country anymore.

Ditto. The hysterical panic of my fellow citizens has left me without much hope on the economic front. The fumes we've been running on since the Baby Boom generation took over are quickly running out.
201 posted on 03/30/2020 1:01:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: dfwgator

ya see, lots of new customers.


202 posted on 03/30/2020 1:01:23 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Antoninus

I agree.


203 posted on 03/30/2020 1:01:48 PM PDT by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
...because it is never going to be “paid off” by the taxpayer...

But the interest does have to be paid.

204 posted on 03/30/2020 1:02:49 PM PDT by Fury
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To: rb22982
You are delusional...you are about where I was 3 weeks ago. You’ll see in a few weeks the economic devastation that this is causing and you’ll be about where I am now. Yes, Trump can say anything he wants, but the media will be against him 24/7/365 AND you’ll be looking at massive unemployment rates, period. THe odds of him being re-elected, IMO, have gone from 60-70% to 25% and if this goes through the end of APril - or worse longer - I give it a 10% chance, max.

Agree. The economic carnage of the past two weeks was nothing compared to what's coming. The doctors who advised Trump to do this will be nowhere to be found when the reckoning comes in November.
205 posted on 03/30/2020 1:03:51 PM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: Fury

I couldn’t escape the rancid debt number associated with them, but you are right about them running that business into the ground before COVID-19.

How about Macy’s and their furlough?
Laura Ashley bankruptcy?


206 posted on 03/30/2020 1:15:14 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Robert DeLong

The common man understands it choking on you phlegm caused by the disease attacking the lungs....he doesn’t careabout the yadadaada cytokines/yadadaad ace2 receptor...


207 posted on 03/30/2020 1:26:29 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
How about Macy’s and their furlough?

I think they will survive as an entity but only in the most promising malls and other locations. This is just going to hurry along the decline of most malls.

Used to shop at Kaufmann's all the time. Had the best men's department. Once they got bought by Macy's, their focus changed. Can still get good deals there, but it's not where I would go for a suit any longer.

The point is that millions of people will have no job to go back to, regardless of when these stay at home orders are lifted.

208 posted on 03/30/2020 1:27:50 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Robert DeLong

The common man understands it as choking on your phlegm caused by the disease attacking the lungs....he doesn’t care about the yadadaada cytokines/yadadaad ace2 receptor... ect.
And the common man wants simple to understand treatments to help him get thru the crisis and meds that will help.


209 posted on 03/30/2020 1:29:23 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Antoninus; rb22982
You are delusional...you are about where I was 3 weeks ago. You’ll see in a few weeks the economic devastation that this is causing and you’ll be about where I am now. Yes, Trump can say anything he wants, but the media will be against him 24/7/365 AND you’ll be looking at massive unemployment rates, period. THe odds of him being re-elected, IMO, have gone from 60-70% to 25% and if this goes through the end of APril - or worse longer - I give it a 10% chance, max. Agree. The economic carnage of the past two weeks was nothing compared to what's coming. The doctors who advised Trump to do this will be nowhere to be found when the reckoning comes in November.

You guys are hilarious. You have this picture of Donald Trump as some kind of bumbling idiot who JUST listens to Fauci and Birx. That's it. He wakes up every day and asks them how to run the country. Nobody else gets any input. He doesn't study anything. He doesn't ask any other advisers. Doesn't keep up with current economic activity. Doesn't keep up with the medical situation. Somehow he's been hoodwinked by "doctors".

210 posted on 03/30/2020 1:31:31 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: rb22982; MissNomer
Don't worry, DouglasKC says everything will be just fine! /sarcasm But seriously hope he got a decent severance and good luck to you all.

I wish you luck as well. It's not ME being optimistic about the economy. It comes directly from President Trump.

211 posted on 03/30/2020 1:33:22 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
How about Macy’s and their furlough?

Macy's has been running on it's own name for decades. They've just been fortunate to have the fortune of fat economic times. If I had to bet I would bet that a lot of these marginal retail chains are going to use the excuse of the virus to bankrupt and grab federal funds as they go out the door.

212 posted on 03/30/2020 1:35:45 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Fury

I worry about retail, all of it.
Fast food joints will be needed once this clears up.

If this can convince manufacturers to bring it all back here, then we may dodge this total economic wipe-out.

I will never understand however how the ship hasn’t sunk with our national debt at the levels it is.


213 posted on 03/30/2020 1:35:53 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: DouglasKC

We’ve NEVER shut the economy down! No one has any freaking idea what’s coming next - there is a reason they literally just injected $6 TRILLION into the economy last week!


214 posted on 03/30/2020 1:41:35 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
We’ve NEVER shut the economy down! No one has any freaking idea what’s coming next - there is a reason they literally just injected $6 TRILLION into the economy last week!

Yup. That's exactly why. But again I get a kick out of how you characterize things.

Trump: Gee what do we do?
Doctor Fauci: Shut down the country for a year?
Trump: Okay. What about all the jobs.
Doctor Birx: Print 6 trillion dollars.
Trump: Okay.

I'm pretty sure there's a master plan. They don't know EXACTLY what's going to happen but you can bet they have a 110% better idea than you and I do.

215 posted on 03/30/2020 1:45:32 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; rb22982
You guys are hilarious. You have this picture of Donald Trump as some kind of bumbling idiot who JUST listens to Fauci and Birx.

Now just where would we have gotten an idea like that? I don't know...

‘I Guess We Got To Do It’: Dr. Fauci Explains The Moment That Led To Trump Extending Social Distancing Mandate

I don't think Trump is an idiot. I think he's being manipulated.
216 posted on 03/30/2020 1:49:42 PM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I will never understand however how the ship hasn’t sunk with our national debt at the levels it is.

One reason--the US Dollar. Lose that, and it's game over, man.
217 posted on 03/30/2020 1:51:25 PM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: DouglasKC
I'm pretty sure there's a master plan.

Your optimism is cute.
218 posted on 03/30/2020 1:52:24 PM PDT by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: DouglasKC

Printing money does not create wealth, it in fact destroys it. All the government is doing is picking winners and losers. Trump is being manipulated by the deep state here and he knows he’s lost in a no win situation at this point.


219 posted on 03/30/2020 1:54:25 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Antoninus
I don't think Trump is an idiot. I think he's being manipulated.

Because obviously he's been manipulated his entire life and his entire Presidency....

220 posted on 03/30/2020 2:13:56 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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