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Corona Virus Daily Thread #28

Posted on 03/26/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #27 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828191/posts?page=1


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To: wastoute
Which is why we can “flatten the curve”. We have. Seriously. Right now it looks like we may have stomped the hell out of it.

New Cases

20MAR 5588

21MAR 4825

22MAR 9400

23MAR 10189

24MAR 11075

25MAR 13355

26MAR 17224

Total Cases

20MAR 19367

23MAR 43781

26MAR 85435

I'm not sure this meets "flattening the curve". We are slowing it down more than some countries have, but doubling every 3 days isn't ideal. I think people being responsible would be more effective than massive shutdowns, other than mass transportation. We should have seen this coming, but refused to believe what we saw happening around the world.

801 posted on 03/26/2020 11:33:50 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: greeneyes

“He said they have to use those phones for everything. Can’t buy anything without it etc.”

I can believe it. I knew a guy that would go down to Haiti on medical missionary trips every year. He said the people don’t have water, sanitation, etc. - but they all have cell phones provided by the government. He surmised it was their manner to distribute propaganda and maintain control.


802 posted on 03/26/2020 11:35:53 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: PA Engineer
Important front line video. Reflecting what we have heard.

LIVE w/ NYC Doctor Treating Hospital Patients
803 posted on 03/26/2020 11:38:38 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: calenel; Black Agnes

found an article about home tests, but a few months out:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/covid-19-self-test-could-allow-return-to-work-says-public-health-england


804 posted on 03/26/2020 11:45:15 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: ETCM

Look at “new deaths”. It has been 250 plus or minus 20 for 3 days. It quit doubling three days ago.


805 posted on 03/26/2020 11:45:34 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: PA Engineer

Thank you. Great video of a young doctor and her observations. Disheartening to hear that they are trying all of the various medicines, but doesn’t sound like they have had much success with any of them, and just keep trying.

I can’t remember all of the names, but the interviewer mentioned them all and she said they are using them, but no real pattern in what might work.

At the end she says something like “Us on the inside as medical workers won’t be the ones to stop this. It will be the public on the outside that will.” Meaning our behaviors, social distancing, etc.


806 posted on 03/27/2020 12:40:05 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

WASHINGTON

“At EvergreenHealth Medical Center, two miles from the shuttered Lifecare nursing home... officials say their rate of new covid-19 cases...leveling off at a trickle. On some days, doctors here see just one new case and haven’t seen more than four in a single day since mid-March

“In the state that saw the nation’s first confirmed covid-19 case on Jan. 31, and the first recorded coronavirus-related death on Feb. 29, initial dire predictions of massive spikes have waned even as testing has increased rapidly. While the number of cases in Washington state grew by as much as 28 percent in one day on March 15 — it has since slowed significantly statewide, as have hospitalizations and deaths.
State authorities said there have been 2,580 positive cases and 132 deaths, and as testing in Washington has ramped up, the percentage of positive cases has remained low — holding at about 7 percent. “

WaPo
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/where-coronavirus-outbreak-started-in-washington-state-officials-see-hope-as-cases-appear-to-be-leveling-off/ar-BB11Ls27?ocid=spartanntp


807 posted on 03/27/2020 12:56:48 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

LONDON

Dyson designs ventilator in 10 days, making 15,000 amid pandemic

James Dyson, the company’s billionaire founder, confirmed the order in a letter to employees shared with CNN on Wednesday...

...Dyson said the company had designed and built an entirely new ventilator, called the “CoVent,” since he received a call 10 days ago from UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

“This new device can be manufactured quickly, efficiently and at volume,” Dyson added, saying that the new ventilator has been designed to “address the specific needs” of coronavirus patients.

CNN
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/dyson-designs-ventilator-in-10-days-making-15-000-amid-pandemic/ar-BB11JYpr?ocid=spartanntp

Up yours, China


808 posted on 03/27/2020 1:01:28 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

Yes - I’ve seen the charts here and am SO THANKFUL! (I’m less than 3 miles as the crow flied from Evergreen). The other day there were no new deaths in the state!

I think we might have the weaker Chinese strain compared to New York’s Italian strain (some have surmised variations). I think there might be some cultural reasons, and of course we don’t have nearly the high density of people or the large mass transit that NYC has.

That one nursing home getting it early made the early numbers jump. Other nursing places also had it, but a bit later on (the next week?) when it was on people’s radar by then so they managed it better.


809 posted on 03/27/2020 1:05:45 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Jane Long

Such nice folks, the Chinese........


810 posted on 03/27/2020 1:09:27 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: blueplum

MEXICO

A small group of protesters in Mexico blocked the southbound lanes at a border crossing between the twin border cities of Ambos Nogales on Wednesday, with demonstrators calling on the Mexican government to institute stronger COVID-19 screenings for people coming from the U.S.

Newsweek:


811 posted on 03/27/2020 1:19:22 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: 21twelve
I hypothesize those with insulin disregulation will have the hardest time with it. It is strictly a correlation with age for negative outcomes. The elderly have the most issues with a lifetime of low level insulin resistance. In the US we will probably see a far greater negative outcomes with the younger population based faulty dietary advice, pharmaceutical interventions and corpulence.

We can turn it around quickly with the right medical leadership. HbA1c and the Kraft blood test can confirm this hypothesis based on outcomes.

Excellent interview.
812 posted on 03/27/2020 1:19:55 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Paul R.

Hot, sunny day?

You mean both on the same day?

Hmmm, I think that might happen once or twice in July, if memory serves me correctly.

But this is CNY. Just getting the sunny day is a stroke of luck, much less the hot part.


813 posted on 03/27/2020 1:24:44 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Paul R.

I would also suspect polyester to be more in line with other hard surfaces.

I need to look at my fabric selection for making homemade masks.

Could whip those up in a few minutes what with the way I sew.

My sewing machine is the *take it with me if the house is on fire* kind of necessity.


814 posted on 03/27/2020 1:26:28 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: wastoute

Many of these early deaths are atypical, mostly very old and weak that died within a week of being infected. Most cases take 3-4 weeks to resolve, thus deaths lag new cases by about 3 weeks. 3 weeks ago we were barely getting started. As new cases ramp up, the Case Fatality Rate will at first decrease as most patients are early in the disease progression. Then as existing cases resolve and new cases drop, CFR will again climb. When South Korea was where we are now, they were about 0.7% fatalities. They are now 1.5%, and if their trend continues they will reach 2.4%.


815 posted on 03/27/2020 1:28:32 AM PDT by ETCM
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To: Paul R.

LOL.

Those are OLD film clips.


816 posted on 03/27/2020 1:32:35 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ETCM

Not good. This could be the year with no summer.


817 posted on 03/27/2020 1:35:26 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: cgbg

The infection and hospitalization numbers at present do not indicate that herd immunity has kicked in yet.


818 posted on 03/27/2020 1:35:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: blueplum

The question is, “How many patients once intubated are extubated?” From what it sounds like once they are that sick they don’t come back. If that’s the case we don’t need ventilators at all. It’s a terrible thing to contemplate but in a melt down, if it fails every time why expose the staff. You simply have to start thinking about the staff.


819 posted on 03/27/2020 1:37:59 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: HandyDandy; Paul R.

What about just putting them in the full sun for a day?

Turn them over part way through so both sides get it.

UV is a disinfectant.


820 posted on 03/27/2020 1:38:47 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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