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Corona Virus Daily Thread #26

Posted on 03/24/2020 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #25 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3827443/posts?page=1


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To: BusterDog

The irony is that Easter will be too late—the numbers will be so crazy by then that the President will be under incredible pressure to keep everything closed.

At our current rate of case doubling every three days we are talking about 500K cases at the end of the first week of April and 1M cases by Easter, with every major city hospital seriously overloaded.

(They may not all be shown in the stats, because I believe that in some areas the testing lab materials, equipment and ppes will limit testing ability. There are also could be some bending in the curve due to efforts in effect now, but best case I think we are looking at 500K cases by Easter.)

I also think it is at least 50-50 that by then we will have the dying in public caught on camera stuff going on...

I will believe the Easter opening when I see it...


561 posted on 03/24/2020 4:11:55 PM PDT by cgbg (BOLO--escaped SNF resident--Joe Biden)
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To: ncalburt

“Its big of you to kill off a million people and not care .”

It’s going to happen whether anyone cares or not.


562 posted on 03/24/2020 4:13:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LilFarmer

cut a hole? agitate? What, you want me to do work?. Now, using grandkid slave labor? that’s pure pleasure :)

(seriously, haha, both ways do the job - maybe plunger better on jeans, tho.)


563 posted on 03/24/2020 4:14:08 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Black Agnes
Another reference for you to help others to understand:

Baltic Exchange Dry Index
564 posted on 03/24/2020 4:15:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: kaila

“If the hospitals get overwhelmed, those 70 to 80 year olds are going to be allowed to die in favor of treating the young.”

So let’s not overwhelm them. Duh.


565 posted on 03/24/2020 4:15:44 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: amorphous

Per the chart you posted it APPEARS the US may flatten the curve.

No longer doubling every two days.


566 posted on 03/24/2020 4:15:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PA Engineer

rumors senators could show up in hazmat suits if necessary

i think this will make schumer cave...they cant really want that optic.


567 posted on 03/24/2020 4:16:39 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: datura

CFR for the flu is on average 0.1%. Average.


568 posted on 03/24/2020 4:16:53 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Mariner

We have the capability to saved many more by not discarding them. This isn’t trench warfare in WWI

Agree with you most of the time, but not here.

Life’s isn’t always A or B

We have options as long as some aren’t selfish.

Keep the elderly safe as possible and sheltered against harm. We can get through this and they can too if were not selfish. Yes they’re greater risk. But or selfishness ruining the healthcare they will need is both reckless damning.


569 posted on 03/24/2020 4:17:34 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: SheepWhisperer

It happens to be true, and can make people more willing to make the most of the rest of their life.


570 posted on 03/24/2020 4:18:29 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: RummyChick
suit up romney like this

571 posted on 03/24/2020 4:18:29 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Thud

Two words - Virgin Airlines.


572 posted on 03/24/2020 4:18:30 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Mariner

We’re looking better alright. Praying the decline continues. I find S.K. troubling - deaths from Corona are increasing again. Also, note the two deaths from the Diamond Princess! What’s that all about?


573 posted on 03/24/2020 4:19:01 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: RummyChick

He’s got Magic Underwear, he’s good.


574 posted on 03/24/2020 4:19:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: calenel; impimp

dead/dead+or recovered(resolved cases “one or the other”)
death rate....may start high but will drop “hopefully as more recover. Final mortality rate will be much lower as pestilence ends but how much lower...who can say.

or recovery rate...Recovered/dead + recovered(total resoved cases. May start low but will rise as more recover and less die.

Testing is increasing but it isn’t meaningful for stats as it only shows who may have had the virus for up to 3 weeks and many have had no or very mild disease.

What really tells us if prevalence is increasing will be the sudden uptick for covids related acute hosptializations where there weren’t any going on before or were at a very low level. People may panic thinking their sniffle is covids(and it may be but not serious enough for the hospital) and numbers wiil rush the hospital(usually at oh dark thirty) have to be screened but that is not what I mean.

I mean large numbers in the space of a few days just pouring hospitals having gone into severe dehydration,shock, hypoxia, sepsis and respiratory distress all at once in a given area where there had been little or none before. That’s how you know the covids’ numbers have increased in large percentages in the population(whether tested or untested); that’s when numbers start to be significant. That’s when you know whether your mitigation efforts have succeeded or not.


575 posted on 03/24/2020 4:19:31 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: cgbg

“The irony is that Easter will be too late—the numbers will be so crazy by then that the President will be under incredible pressure to keep everything closed.”

That’s what I am thinking, too. Trump understands there is a significant portion of the electorate that hates the shutdowns and that they are primarily in his base. He hates them, too, but he knows they are necessary.

I’d expect an approach of opening up where we can, and I don’t expect that to include any major US metro area.


576 posted on 03/24/2020 4:20:12 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: calenel
Any CFR calculated at this point is transient.

I know there are those (not flubros) who think the CFR is pointless before the pandemic is over. I disagree. I think it is very meaningful, as long as you're aware of its limitations. In fact, all the statistics are "transient" while the pandemic is ongoing. But together they form a picture that helps you make decisions.

577 posted on 03/24/2020 4:20:38 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: SheepWhisperer

“reckless damning”

There will be millions of damned survivors.


578 posted on 03/24/2020 4:21:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
If this virus kills a million citizens
we will have serious political problems in this country now .
579 posted on 03/24/2020 4:22:47 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Global)
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To: BusterDog

Lookner is obfuscating the President saying he would like to open with the President saying he will open. That is borderline clown commentary. Stick to the spews.


580 posted on 03/24/2020 4:23:12 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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