A little spanish lingo...
Posted on 03/15/2020 9:49:28 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #16 is below and it ran for two days...
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3824270/posts?page=2051
Don’t leave!
I promise not to feed the trolls anymore.
“ I wonder if the entire country will lock down or would it be just the high populated areas like NYC, Seattle, LA, and San Fran.”
I think it will be a lockdown in name only in that events will be cancelled as per CDC new guidelines...bars and most stores closed, etc. so you won’t be welded into your house, but there just won’t be much of anywhere to go...so the effect is the same...
As more tests are conducted we get a true look at the numher of cases. If there is more (+) which we are missing (which is the most likely scenario) then the death rate naturally falls and a true representation of the mortality rate is determined.
Math.
But I suppose you cannot grasp that. The larger the N the less the mortality rate. Unless you magically believe that we have every case tested and have found them all.
Please refute this statement: 85% of cases remain asymptomatic or have a mild self limited disease. If those are positive and not tested that means that only 15% of cases are tested as they are what is in contact with medical system. Lets use Washington numbers.
0.15x = 782 (Washington)
x = 5213.33 cases (Washington)
42/5213 (death/true cases) = 0.8 Mortality which is exactly the Korean numbers, which is exactly what HHS states. Which is exactly what Fauci testified to, which is consistently what I have said all along.
I can’t wait for you to twist like a pretzel to quote your brethren to show this is wrong. Please. Its math, you are expert in it.
Please tell me how this is incorrect (hint: its not)
Wow, two whole cases? I have multiple more cases of young people in as bad of shape from different causes — why aren’t you pearl clutching about those. Jackass.
I am exactly aware of what I said. And what of these cases? Dead? ICU? According to you they should be.
No, I have just learned to recognize the smell of Panda schlong on a troll’s breath, cause there have been so many lately.
Did you hear that within the last hour, the President of Argentina has closed their borders to all foreigners?
That Ireland is closing all bars and restaurants (right before St. Patrick’s Day?)
National leaders, of other countries. To their own detriment.
They outrank an anonymous 50-cent poster any day.
Hits *ignore* button.
Stop.
Please.
Thanks.
If it was a bioweapon, the almost certain means of release is the lowest paid minions in the lab sale of live diseased lab animals (bats) to the local exotic animals meat market, rather than disposing of them safely as they had been ordered.
I didnt say where they should be.
I simply said they had tested positive.
In fact, YOU don’t know their medical condition yet you mocked it and said they had colds
Even dumb ass Rudy said he was worried.
But carry on LICENSED PROFESSIONAL mocking the coronavirus and those who have it.
Definitely will do. At this point, as I read through these posts, I’m scanning the user names of the From and To and skipping it if a certain name is there. I’ve seen an entire forum wiped out by this same thing. homesteadingtoday used to be an awesome place but they didn’t moderate threads that devolved into an argument between 2-3 people. Eventually, all the good people left. What really happened is a handful of leftists showed up to this mostly conservative site and trolled every popular thread. The mods didn’t do their job and now the place has 30% of the members it once had. All the knowledgeable people left but there’s still some trolls left there.
gas-well said Ah a voice of sanity on this thread.
Here is what we do know: The fatality rate for COVID 19 is nowhere near as high as some alarmist make it out to be. It is dropping as a % as more test are own and capture those with mild symptoms. That is why no one, repeat ZERO under the age of 10 has died anywhere in the world, Including China etc.
“That’s because many corona virus cases are so mild they’re not even being reported. “ Dr. Robert Redfield, who directs the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Dr. Clifford Lane, deputy director of the NIAID concurred, “”If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%,” Dr. Fauci and his colleagues explained.
The fatality rate as a % is already dropping and look: The two countries that have done the most testing that can be relied upon is S Korea and Germany , they have tested well over 350,000 and have a combined 13,975 cases and 86 deaths for a fatality rate of .0061 or less than 1% and that rate has been falling. That is more than the flu but nothing like what some are reporting here and in the news. The reason there is conjuncture that it may actually be much lower is that based on the R0 rate and the fact that Italy has long been the # 1 tourist destination for China and backing the numbers against the timeline, it is almost certain that the number of people who actually have a mild version of COVID-19 is much higher-many never even know they have it.
As an aside the other factor contributing to China, Italy and Iran deaths are that the two most important parameters in respiratory fitness are: 1. whether the person smokes cigarettes 2. the pollution level of the country. China has a smoking rate of 47.6% and Italy and Iran are also higher than us at 19.5% , pollution rates in China are 4.4 times higher than US, Iran two times an d Italy 50% higher per World Health Organziation
Furthermore: Worldwide there are 86,241 COVID-19 active cases and 93% , or are rated as mild and the mild % is rising, 7% are rated as serious and serious % is falling, about 77,992 have recovered and about 6501 have died.
So until we get a better data set to see how many people are infected (and we may never know as many recover without reporting) at the very least we shouldn’t jump to conclusions and make the negative assumptions that have been repeated as facts. At first people were reporting the fatality rate in the US as 6%, then 3% , well it is falling now and under 2%-probably going to 1% and much lower –still serious and by all means take precautions especially for those in their 80s and 90s but the death rate is nothing like some have been projecting.
If people want something to worry about the cost of this panic and infodemic that is going on is more than monetary. For every 1% increase in unemployment in the U.S there is an increase of 1,500 to 4,000 deaths, quite a few by suicide .
We probably should factor in that that almost all of the deaths in Washington state have been from various rest homes with already health-challenged folks.
It seems to be dropping fast, though, as it was about one in ten and now it is one in 25 testing positive.
OK UNLICENSED professional
Sounds reasonable.
Yep, I do not hold myself out to be a LICENSED physician giving out advice on a deadly disease
You got that right
Nice for you living in Skagit. There have been no deaths in the counties north of Snohomish, as I’m sure you are aware!
Thank you for your kindness.
Lil Farmer has been posting volumes of great info, on these threads. To have her leave, would be a real shame.
Please stay, LF....we appreciate your data and flow of info.
#DontPingTrolls
Hopefully, a lesson has been learned.
A little spanish lingo...
I’m glad it is dropping so fast, too. Washington state is now into it for about two months.
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