Posted on 03/11/2020 5:55:44 AM PDT by C19fan
Dr. Helen Y. Chu, an infectious disease expert in Seattle, knew that the United States did not have much time.
In late January, the first confirmed American case of the coronavirus had landed in her area. Critical questions needed answers: Had the man infected anyone else? Was the deadly virus already lurking in other communities and spreading?
As luck would have it, Dr. Chu had a way to monitor the region. For months, as part of a research project into the flu, she and a team of researchers had been collecting nasal swabs from residents experiencing symptoms throughout the Puget Sound region.
To repurpose the tests for monitoring the coronavirus, they would need the support of state and federal officials. But nearly everywhere Dr. Chu turned, officials repeatedly rejected the idea, interviews and emails show, even as weeks crawled by and outbreaks emerged in countries outside of China, where the infection began.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Recovery takes weeks of intensive care in a very small subset of patients. Most are asymptomatic or have the sniffles
Yes it is the fact. instead of clinging to the lying and the fear mongering actually OPEN your mind to data that challenges your opinion.
Still racing around screaming hysteric chicken little lies again today I see.
Real facts for those interested in Science and data not politically motivated panic mongering and lying.
121,340 total cased WORLD WIDE. 50,00 active cases 70,000 resolved case
4380 deaths. Average age of death: 80 years old
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The slimes gets it wrong again.
Not if you want to know the prevalence of something in a community.
No need. You test people with symptoms. People think these tests are like a pregnancy test. They’re not. Plenty of false positives.
I’m flying to Seattle soon. I’m going to avoid Life Center Kirkland. :)
The good news about not getting tested is that the test won’t help you anyway.
I’m sorry about your mom. What exposure to Covid did you have? Did you care for or enter the room if an infected patient without appropriate gear ? If not you were not exposed and there are dozens of reasons to have cold symptoms circulating right now
49,000,000 people caught the flu.
23,000,000 people visited the doctor
620,000 people hospitalized
52,000 deaths
In the chart below, notice the steep drop-off of cases? Guess what this will happen for the Coronavirus. Giving plenty of time to develop and test cures with a vaccine close behind (most think it will be less than a year because of the money and push by Government).
Does this mean we are all doomed? Women and Children hardest hit?
You left out Step 6
— Tacos
“Average age of death: 80 years old.”
It’s a senior-phobic virus. I’m getting there myself...to that wrong end of the “hockey stick”. Am I a useless eater? unsustainable? deplorable? bitter clinger? or E. All of the above
No harboring septuagenarians or octogenarians. They’re Super Spreaders.
Older folks are at higher risk with most diseases. Unfortunately that’s just the way it works
Just how many times do you need to post the same thing in one thread?
Fine but we were t talking about your aversion to vaccination The only way to k is the prevalence of a disease in a given community is to test broadly - symptomatic and asymptomatic. Of course we cannot test the entire nation but we can do representative sampling of five. communities
From Milan today:
I am in Milan in the heart of the coronavirus red zone . I know we are all sick of hearing about it. I certainly am, but I wanted to share these thoughts because I feel like there is a lot of misinformation out there. Considering we’ve been in some form of lockdown for three weeks now (now drastic measures are being taken and we are quarantined at home), I feel like I’ve become somewhat of an expert on this. At least, this is my experience and what I’ve learned in these weeks.
We are fine physically (for now), but, mentally, quarantine conditions and the devastating news around us does take its toll. To anyone anywhere saying, “Hey, it’s just the flu” or “The flu causes more deaths per year,” STOP. The rate of transmission with coronavirus is much higher and none of us is vaccinated against it. Worse, it causes a type of pneumonia that can leave patients in intensive care for weeks. The idea that it only affects the elderly or those with immune disorders is also wrong.
No healthcare system in the world can handle the onslaught this virus brings with it, and we should not put our doctors and nurses in a position where they have to decide who gets the last bed in intensive care, who gets the last respirator.
The hospital down the road where my children were born has had to adopt a “selection protocol” whereby they decide who lives or dies, and this is something that hasn’t been enacted since World War II. As someone who has been mired in all of this since Feb. 24. I would just like to give some advice to anyone in the world in an area where coronavirus is starting to ramp up. First and foremost, you don’t necessarily need to hoard toilet paper but you should get stocked up on your prescriptions. Primary-care doctors are at great risk of being exposed to coronavirus, so if they are taken out of commission (and even once the madness reaches fever pitch), it makes it harder for you to get the things you need. Also, once this is widespread, medical offices, hospitals and pharmacies are not places you want to hang out.
Finally, we are all soldiers in this fight. The less we are out and about, moving around, the more this virus dies out. We may have to be inconvenienced or have to change our habits for a while, but our actions have a direct impact on the lives of everyone around us, with effects that are felt far and wide.
Michelle Schoenung, freelance journalist and translator living in Milan
Will you cut the crap—the average age of death is not 80.
“There is no way to know the number that never report symptoms. For this disease or any other.”
I think that their are some differences, now.
Now, there is a “test”, and tested positives, even asymptomatic, will probably be counted in statistics, reducing mortality. South Korea is massively testing, and I assume quarantining the positives. This gives good control, and also reduces mortality stats, as noted.
Hysteria has the spread of this infection followed, day by day. I would imagine that there is correlation between first-to-show and fatality that skews mortality higher at the start of spread, and we’re seeing this because of the intense focus on rapid day-by-day numbers.
The CDC looks pathetic, in all this. Political hacks and beaurocrats with an unlimited budget. Morons with PhD’s. There seems to be a complete lack of understanding in the CDC of what it’s function even is.
Bat guano flu...
Why government, business and community leaders should go to a lockdown : https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
The comparison charts for common cold and covid 19 show there is the sniffles with the former but not usually seen in the latter.
”Well, if ten times as many people have it as we think have it, it means the mortality rate is a lot lower than we think it is. That is great news!“
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Only on the surface. If there are 10x the cases, that’s 10x the burden on our hospitals, 10x the number of our healthcare profession that gets sick (and thus has to be isolated) and about 109x the panic. Yeah, great news. :>(
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