Costs derail Vermont's dream of a single-payer health plan(Flash back)

Boston Globe ^ | 01/25/2015

[Kid Shelleen]

For decades, liberal activists yearned for a European-style, single-payer health system that they argued would lead to more affordable, efficient, and comprehensive medical coverage for all citizens. When Vermont four years ago enacted a landmark bill to establish the nation’s first single-payer health care system, they saw their long-sought dream about to be fulfilled.

But reality hit last month. Governor Peter Shumlin released a financial report that showed the cost of the program would nearly double the size of the state’s budget in the first year alone and require large tax increases for residents and businesses. ---SNIP--- In short, if a liberal state electing a Socialist (US Senator Bernie Sanders) to Congress can’t or won’t put a single-payer system into place, then who will?

[Kid Shelleen]

Just because the it failed in Vermont does not mean a national single payer plant wont work. All we need is millions of deplorables financially supporting the Bernie Bozos. /S

[Rurudyne]

When the money runs out will the progressive elites behind it all get starve with the rest of us?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

It’s always those dratted costs.

[oldbrowser]

The obvious answer is medical care has to be provided in a equitable way to achieve the greater good.
Those people who are passed their productive part of their life can receive palliatives.
Others to be evaluated based on subjective criteria by officials.

[asinclair]

Before I would ever sign up for single-payer (or Medicare for All) I would like to see a complete cost breakdown, including changes on limits of coverage. One argument my uber-liberal friends keep making is that the increases in taxes would be more than made up by a decrease in out-of-pocket expenses. (No proof provided, of course. No comprehensive analysis, of course.)

We already know that older citizens would be denied coverage in some instances, because it would be cost-effective. Say, cancer in a 90 year old person.

And if it's true Medicare For All, it means you will *still* have to pay a premium each month. So it's increased taxes and the ol' monthly hit, which could change over time.

Progressive premium, based on age and existing conditions?

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Rurudyne :" When the money runs out will the progressive elites behind it all get starve with the rest of us?

For recent reference, check on the financial and social climate of Venezuela.
For reference to "progressives" during a crisis, check out the Puerto Rican mayor,after a hurricane,
who wore a "Help us,we're starving" tee shirt, while posing on the docks with relief supplies stacked up behind her.
The quick answer is : No,- it depends on your 'social score', and which political party you belong to.

For information about a government single-payer health plan
see Covid-19 healthcare in Wuhan China.

[metmom]

When the money runs out will the progressive elites behind it all get starve with the rest of us?

Only those who do not learn to grow their own food will starve.

And the elites will be hard pressed when production drops because there aren't enough people to grow the food they want/need, or ship it to them.

Then again, maybe The Hunger Games is not so far fetched after all.