Posted on 01/22/2020 11:20:53 AM PST by nickcarraway
Thank you. I am very lucky. But it did take 18 1/2 years to land one like her, but she is truly a pleasure to be around. Glad now that I did settle for just anybody.
For a man under the age of 45 with an IQ 1 Std Deviation above the mean I think a pre-nuptual agreement is the ONLY way to go. Remember, you aren't just married to her, but the state with marriage today. That pre-nupt protects from both.
“Our first marital residence was a studio apartment in a bad part of Riverside where it was not uncommon to hear gunshots at night. Years later, we’re still happily married. Starting out poor didn’t destroy our marriage; it strengthened it by making us more grateful for what we have, including each other.”
So Sweet! Continued Blessings for you both! :)
What if your spouse is abusive? Spent every last dime and then some while you saved a bunch, and your spouse told you she/he’d never have sex with you again (the first and third were not the case with me although she made a good faith effort with the second even though my income has gone up 20% a year for 15 straight years)? Divorce is usually never as easy as infidelity. Infidelity is already taken into account in the vast majority of states, as it should, but getting NADA is nuts as well (except for spouses that would otherwise get alimony, I think they should get nada, of cousre I think alimony should largely be done away with except a 1-2 year transition period)
Or even better, what I advise my clients is this: Have a commitment ceremony, live together, take each other’s names if you want, but for god’s sake do NOT get a license. Then when it is over, you just walk away.
Society and culture assumes any success by either husband or wife during marriage is a JOINT achievement. For either husband or wife to achieve financial success needs the encouragement, cooperation and other contributions of the partner. My wife raised the kids and kept the house in good order while I was out making my million. So if I had a prenup, I can just ditch her when she has a few wrinkles and find a younger model by taking most of the money?
Prenup is for your money BEFORE marriage, not DURING marriage.
And when your spouse mortgages your paid off house over a medical bill, you are ojay with being homeless.
That is not what I said, but without a prenup you could work hard, her not, she spent all your money, bankrupted you, and you could have 30 years of alimony at $100k/year+ coming. Don’t think she’d do that? You have no idea what young women today are like compared to even a generation again and the temptations they have from all over. Prenups should be fair - they are more likely to hold up if they are, but going in without one is dumb if your IQ is over 115
So the housewife that is married to the guy making $50k a year gets no alimony but the one making $500k/yr gets $100-150k for at least half the # of years they were married. Why? Same job. Child support for first is $5-10k, it’s 25-50k for second. Why?
Never get married.
All I can say is, if that is the situation, the husband had a low IQ in selecting the wife. And the husband is more dumb if he let the wife spend all money without his input. And finally, if you father kids, you are responsible morally and legally to support them until they become adults.
Such BS. All on the guy and nothing on the woman. How do you stop her exactly short of threatening her, which will get your torn up in court? How is a 23 yr old going to know in 10 years the woman he married going to be 180 degrees different? Why does the cost of the child vary by the amount the guy makes? Isn’t the cost to raise a kid the same? Typical white knight BS. Women have no agency and men have all agency. Total BS
An attorney says....” all couples walking up the aisle should have one”....
Cha ching cha ching!
That’s why you have a will.
If that is your situation, you married too quickly without really getting to know the lady. I see why so many couples live together for a long time before making it legal. My wife and I lived together for 4 years before getting married, and by that time I knew her well.
Again, I am not a lawyer, but prenups are mainly for wealth acquired BEFORE marriage, not during marriage.
As for child support, if you make half a million/year, you want your own kids to live like if you made $50k? How selfish!!
Total horse crap. I dated my wife for 24 months after I knew her for more than 18. You won’t answer the questions I proposed and can’t. A fair post nup Is more than fair. Remember a prenup is negotiating with the government, not your wife!
Situation 1: Couple marries at 25, both making about $30k/year. Have a kid at 32, wife becomes stay at home mom. Husband spends like crazy and the wife is the frugal one but they never save much. At 40, husband makes $60/year after doing the minimum at work and they divorce. Wife gets 6 months of alimony of $2k/month and thereafter gets $7,500 to $10k/year in child support for 10 more years.
Situation 2: Couple marries at 25, both making about $30k/year. Have a kid at 32, wife becomes stay at home mom. Husband is very frugal and saves, works his tail off at work and rises through the ranks to make $500k/year at age of 40. Wife is a shopaholic and blows through much of their money. At 40 they divorce. Wife is strongly suspected of cheating but no proof. She's also an alcoholic. Wife gets $100k/year in alimony for the rest of her life and $40k/year for 10 years.
Situation 2 is not too far off from where I was, except no kid. Why is guy 2 required to pay $4-5 million POST divorce assuming they both live over 80? A pre-nup stops crap like that from happening
I don’t believe marriage is a logical path for the non-religious. However, marriage exists as a way to better ensure our progeny survives and is strong. Sadly, something happened since WWII that’s sort o messed up western (and all) civilization. I think it is the acquisition of “plenty”. Too many people just think we don’t need God any more.
But they are forgetting how we got what we have in the first place. It will leave a mark.
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