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To: Tired of Taxes; Jolla; flaglady47; Guenevere; Bob Ireland; oswegodeee; Trump Girl Kit Cat; ...
I wish this couple the best.

You only live once!

I couldn't stand the stifled, hidebound, constricted life and duties that centuries-old British royalty and "nobility" imposes on its members, despite all the material goodies that come with the job.

I'd have to get OUT to work and succeed at what I loved doing....and to live and enjoy a life of duties and challenges that weren't forced on me by others till the day I died. I know exactly how this couple feels.

I, too, don't understand the hateful remarks and insults slung at this royal couple, since our FReeper conservative credo means FREEDOM with its attendant responsibilities....and it look Harry and Meghan are going to give this new life a try.

I bet there's more than one member of the royal family that envies them !

I wish them much success and happiness wherever they and baby Archie settle.

Leni

111 posted on 01/08/2020 2:10:52 PM PST by MinuteGal (MAGA !!! MAGA !!! MAGA !!!)
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To: MinuteGal

You really miss the point.

They aren’t quitting THE FIRM to go work at Costco or make a D List movie.

They are quitting because they want to monetize their celebrity gained from being in THE FIRM but THE FIRM wouldn’t let them. So now they quit so they can capitalize on it.

“The source said: “Make no mistake, Harry and Meghan intend to make a lot of money and start taking commercial deals as soon as possible.”

And be charity GRIFTERS like Hillary Clinton.

If they grift from their Foundation I guess that would be okay with you. Because that is exactly what they are going to do.


113 posted on 01/08/2020 2:16:11 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: MinuteGal

Well said, Leni!


116 posted on 01/08/2020 2:33:08 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: MinuteGal

I would’ve wished them success, too, if they hadn’t hired 2 US Deep Staters.

I don’t pretend to know what’s going on, but I’d be willing to bet it may be Brexit and/or Spygate related in some way. Especially since this announcement comes right after they’d spent weeks off the radar, not even coming out for photo-ops.


118 posted on 01/08/2020 2:39:44 PM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: MinuteGal

the issue that stands out with me is the couple out to ‘make a lot of money’ continues their harping at the world to live a life of austerity and sacrifice. One is not upholding the benefits of ‘freedom’ if one is badgering others into poverty and slavery to the state.
And in the midst of the worst knife and acid attack on the English in history, it should surprise noone that the Brits would balk at ‘progressive’ Sparkles, as England is well-versed in the dangers not only of unbridled ‘diversity’ but of the Marxist, Stalinist and Communist ideals aimed at destroying Western Civilization specifically, ideals that Megan insists on championing. The Brits have been there, done that at great cost, with no desire for a replay.

The duties of the RF swirl around maintaining alliances with the Commonwealth and setting an example of settled, polite Christian civilization both as royals, and, as defacto heads of the Angelican Church. The RF is the gluepot which is why they travel to so many different countries and play host to so many cooperative events. No royal duty is frivolous or a waste of time or money. Every one is part of the hard work of keeping alliances together and Christian values alive.


123 posted on 01/08/2020 3:14:18 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: MinuteGal

Leni,
All due respect......this time I don’t agree with you.

I truly believe Harry and Meghan are opportunists of the first order......absolute grifters!

I still have a level of respect for the British Royal Family, specifically the Queen.
At the rate England is destroying itself, she is a reminder of ‘order and honor’of days long ago.

What Meghan and Harry are doing by thumbing their noses at her is despicable, dirty!


149 posted on 01/09/2020 3:58:39 AM PST by Guenevere (Psalm 37)
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To: MinuteGal; Tired of Taxes

I seem to remember when Kate Middleton or “Waity Katie” as she was often called in the British tabloids, being described as a social climbing gold digger, a mere commoner with high, the very highest of social ambitions, who had and perhaps with the encouragement and help of her mother, long planned a devious plot to snare William into marriage.

Kate and her sister were even known in the posh circles and in the tabloids as the “wisteria sisters” - “highly decorative, terribly fragrant and with a ferocious ability to climb”.

Kate and William were said to have met while they were students at St Andrews and some said Kate had even chosen to go to school there in order to meet him as she had originally planned to attend another university but changed to St Andrews after learning William was attending. It’s been said that William saw his future bride wearing a skimpy and nearly see through outfit in a 2003 fashion show, something she did presumably to catch his eye, after which they started dating, lived together for a time with some other flat mates, then broke up. But some at the time speculated that even this breakup was part of her cunning plan all along to snare the Prince – as in that Beyonce song, “put a ring on it”.

During their first years of dating, their subsequent breakup and then getting back together and their official engagement and even into the early years of their marriage, the tabloids and the paparazzi were pretty vicious and merciless toward Kate, to the point that lawsuits were filed by both the “Firm” and the Middleton family. And when they were first married some claimed that along with being a gold digger and a social climber, she as the new Duchess, was an “ice princess”, “haughty”, “nasty to the staff”, “anorexic” and may not even be able to bare children supposedly because of it.

But Kate has turned out pretty well by pretty most accounts. She had some early missteps but now seems to be now much loved and a much respected Royal. She seemed to have learned what it takes to be a member of the “Firm” but giving birth to a healthy male heir and two spares, probably also helped along with her rather increasingly conservative fashion sense and her rather traditional charitable work and poise in public.

“I couldn’t stand the stifled, hidebound, constricted life and duties that centuries-old British royalty and “nobility” imposes on its members, despite all the material goodies that come with the job.”

The interesting thing about Diana is, that unlike Kate or Megan, she was born into the very highest upper echelons of British nobility, yet seemed to have no idea what she was getting into when she married Charles or how relentless and cruel the press and paparazzi would be and what her “duties” would acutely entail. And it seems that the “Firm” chose her as the best of the possible brides for Charles – noble, young, attractive, fertile, presumably able to bare many heirs, even though it was known to everyone with the possible exception of Diana, that Charles loved another woman – Camilla, the one to which he’s now married.

But Diana in my opinion was sheltered and very naive and even though she had hob knobbed with the royals all of her life, at the tender age of 20, she seemed to think that marrying a Prince would be something straight out of a fairytale. She learned as it’s been said that on her wedding night that Charles really didn’t love her, didn’t want to marry her if he’d had any choice in the matter and was communicating with Camila on their wedding night. She was allegedly crushed by this revelation and this began and sent her on a spiral of depression and of self-doubt and destructive behaviors.

I am somewhat reminded by your comment regarding the “the stifled, hidebound, constricted life and duties that centuries-old British royalty” of the unfinished novel by Edith Warton (one of my favorite American authors) - “The Buccaneers”. It takes place in the 1870s and tells the story of five wealthy and ambitious American girls, their guardians and the titled, landed but impoverished Englishmen who marry them as the girls participate in the London Season. It’s been said that it parallels to some degree Winston Churchill’s mother, a new moneyed American heiress who married an English nobleman - she for his title and he for her money and not in truth a happy love match. As the novel progresses, the plot follows Nan and her marriage to the Duke of Tintagel.

I remember the scene in the mini-series based on the novel, where young Nan after her marriage to the Duke who she naively sees as a charming and sensitive young man, her “prince”, comes home to the Duke’s estate and learns from his mother, of all of her responsibilities and duties and the very ridged customs and social constrictions that must be followed as his wife and as the new Duchess. That and she also later learns that her husband is cold toward her both emotionally and sexually (it takes a long time before the marriage is finally consummated and when it is, it is more a kin to rape) as he’s a homosexual and often cruel towards her and controlling when he is not completely distant.

As to Harry, he has seemed for a long time to buck royal tradition. When he trained in the military as a helicopter pilot, he was quite upset that he wasn’t at first deployed with the rest of his unit in Afghanistan out of concerns for his safety and later insisted that he should not be given any preferential treatment. And he seemed to be most comfortable when being a soldier and just a regular bloke and as I understand he didn’t even want to even give these sort of interviews in the war zone to the press but was force to as being part of his ”royal duties”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R4X7OeL3Mc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3z9pnTWcLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYmlqan2Wjc

It’s been said that it was the “Firm” that told Harry that he had to end his deployment and career as a soldier and take on his “royal’ duties and his royal charitable obligations and appearances over his continued military service and including his “royal’ duty to get married and produce even more “royal’ offspring, even if they are way down on the succession line.

I have to wonder that f Harry had been left alone to follow his desire to not be treated as a “royal’ and allowed to continue to be a simple soldier, if his path or even his marriage choice might not have been different.

I also think that Harry was most effected by the death of his mother and how the tabloids and how the paparazzi hounded and treated her.

He was born into “royalty” but does that mean he has to keep this job he was born into if he chooses to take another road?

As to Markle, I don’t have a strong opinion on her one way or another. And like you and some others here and in the tabloids, I don’t get the hate for her.

Across the pond, some of that comes because she’s a Yank and not Royal born, some may even come because she’s mixed race. Here it seems to be a bit of both but why we Americans should care about the birth rights and lines of succession and the customs of the Royals, I don’t get.

Perhaps Markle is a social climbing scheming gold digger like some claimed Kate was.

Or it could be that they genuinely love each other and want a life out of the constant glare of the tabloids and living a more private life for them and for their son Archie, and to some degree working for a living, but they don’t have many options for doing that.


162 posted on 01/10/2020 1:16:09 PM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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