Posted on 12/18/2019 7:14:23 PM PST by Helicondelta
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leaving open the possibility of withholding articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump until she is assured a fair trial in the Senate.
“So far we haven’t seen anything that looks fair to us,” Pelosi said Wednesday after her caucus voted to impeach the president. She was referring to what Democratic leadership plans on doing after the vote.
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Talk about clotheslining yourself.
That would be brilliant if we have the votes to acquit, and we surely do.
Even Pierre and Susan Collins have enough sense to get on board rather than face certain death.
^^^ This! The Dems are losing in everything. Before long even San Francisco will be voting Red!
Good point! I hadn't thought of that. It's inevitable that Pres. Trump will have at least one more SCJ appointment. They have no other way to fight it, especially if Trump nominates Amy Barrett, or any female. It's going to be difficult for them to parade a steady stream of men that claim she abused them. The Dems have no game to combat this next appointment except to try to stop it.
Great point!,,
“Is she Obstructing the Senate?”
As the Senate is part of Congress, she is obstructing Congress, but according to the House of Representatives and half of American voters, Rats never commit any “impeachable” offenses, or any crimes at all.
They lost this case but dont worry there will be a new “crisis” shortly
RE Landslide:
I think you’re right.
But let’s get there first. Fight like we’re way behind.
I think the correct information should be used in the total evaluation of the legal case. Since posting I found that the hold on the military funds was lifted in mid Sept. Since the federal fiscal year closes at the end of Sept. there probably was not enough time to pin down some of the orders that would have been possible a month or two earlier right after Congress approved the original amount.
Aren’t you then suggesting that Nancy Pelosi can decide on her own whether or not to impeach a President?
The Senate has the sole power to try impeachments. I don't see anything that obligates them to do so. They could pass such a rule but it shouldn't be necessary. They can ignore the articles if they want to. They would then have to answer to the voters.
The House has the sole power to impeach. They didn't have to do it. But, in fact, they did do it. The Senate can recognize that they did it regardless of what Nancy says. Would the Supreme Court interfere? I don't think so.
In this case I agree. Since the House may not agree, one way to maintain the peace (however tenuous) would be to let the Supreme Court rule on the matter.
I also see another path to resolution. The Constitution dictates that the Supreme Court Chief Justice shall preside over an impeachment trial of a President. It doesn't make such duty optional. That gives the Chief Justice standing in the matter. He could perhaps order the House to deliver up the articles to the Senate. Alternatively, the Chief Justice could petition the rest of the Court to make such an order. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
After re-reading the relevant parts of the Constitution I now agree that the Senate could ignore it. They might draw a strong rebuke from the Chief Justice who is obligated to preside over any trial. But I don't now see any obligation to hold a trial. Instead the relevant clause simply prevents any other body from holding such a trial.
From post 218:
“All to justify massive voter fraud in 2020”
This is the most important issue to consecrate on.
The left led by Obama Soros Clintons House of Reps, Dems, eGOP et al are working night and day on vote/voter fraud in many ways.
Illegals w/driver licenses felons in and out of prison dead people fake voters soros machines, high up state officials voted in w/Soros money etc etc.
For sure in 2016 elections millions of fraudlent votes were cast for Hillary.
Only the surge of trump supporters prevented Clinton from winning.
It’s not going to be easy to keep Trump in office in 2020 elections.
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