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Women May Be More Adept Than Men At Discerning Pain
NPR ^ | 08/26/2019

Posted on 08/27/2019 7:36:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin

The pathway to opioid abuse for women often starts with a prescription from the doctor's office. One reason is that women are more likely than men to seek help for pain.

Pain researchers say that not only do women suffer more painful conditions, they actually perceive pain more intensely than men do.

"The burden of pain is substantially greater for women than men," says researcher and psychologist Roger Fillingim, "and that led pain researchers like myself to wonder if the pain perception system is different in women than in men."

For more than two decades, Fillingim has been studying gender differences and pain, most recently at the University of Florida's Pain Research and Intervention Center of Excellence, where he is director. He recruits healthy male and female volunteers to take part in experimental pain sessions using various painful stimuli, including pressure, heat, cold and electrical stimulation.

Probes are typically applied to the hand or arm. As intensity of the stimuli is increased, volunteers are asked to rate their pain on a scale of zero to 10, where zero is no pain and 10 is the most intense pain one can imagine. If volunteers report pain levels at 10, Fillingim stops the experiment immediately.

In comparing the responses between women and men, he says the findings in his studies and those in other pain research are consistent.

"On average, women report the same stimuli to be more painful than men," Fillingim says, emphasizing that the same stimulus is applied to everybody, so if there are differences in how painful the experience is, it can't be because of the stimulus because it's calibrated to be the same for all.

Now it could be that men are less willing to admit they have pain. It could also be that women have learned to cope with pain and are more accustomed to talking about it. After all, don't women experience more pain in their lives? What about the monthly pain of menstruation? Or the extreme pain of childbirth?

According to Fillingim, many women — if not most — experience through childbirth what appears to be "one of the most painful experiences in normal life," he says, "but that doesn't speak to pain sensitivity" in the lab, for example. So "experiencing an exquisitely painful event is just a different question than whether or not men and women differ in their pain responses."

For pain researchers such as Fillingim, pinpointing how and why men and women respond differently to pain is an important first step toward finding more effective treatments for pain. It might be that medicines should be tailored according to sex or gender.

"We may ultimately need pink and blue pills, but in order to get there we need to understand what the mechanisms are that are female-specific or male-specific so that we can design more personalized therapies that are going to help reduce pain for women and men in the long run."

That would be a welcome development according to psychologist Carolyn Mazure of the Yale School of Medicine.

"Women are more likely, for example, to have chronic headache, lower back pain and neck pain; women are more likely to have a chronic disability of one kind or another which often is associated with pain," says Mazure. "So whether or not women report pain more or have pain more, I think we could say that both may be true."

And when women go to the doctor they're more likely to be prescribed opioids than men. Mazure says this can be especially dangerous because the progression from exposure to an addictive substance to addiction is more rapid for women than it is for men. "We know that with regard to opioids, cocaine, alcohol and even smoking tobacco," Mazure says.

This is complicated by the fact that women suffer more anxiety and depression than men do. That means women with these conditions are often prescribed other drugs that can result in dangerous combinations that increase the risk of overdose.

In fact, federal data show that while more men die from drug overdoses than women do, the rate of death among women is accelerating faster than it is among men.

Mazure says understanding the "why" behind differences in pain perception could help researchers come up with better treatments.

As it is now, pain researchers such as Fillingim can only speculate about what might trigger differences in pain perception between women and men. There are numerous possibilities. One, he says, is biological and might have to do with sex hormones.

"Women have both higher levels and fluctuations in circulating estrogens and progesterone, and those may contribute to experiencing higher levels of pain," Fillingim says, "whereas men have higher levels of testosterone," which in some studies has been shown to be protective against pain or associated with lower pain sensitivity.

Another possible contributor could have to do with increased susceptibility to anxiety, depression and sadness — all of which are known to increase sensitivity to pain.

It could also have to do with evolution. For example, in hunter-gatherer societies, men were the hunters and women took care of the village and raised the children so that they could successfully pass on their genes. So the pressures for men and women were different.

"Women were more vigilant to a variety of environmental stimuli that might represent danger to them, and particularly to their children," Fillingim says. "Those women who were able to respond and detect those threats and deal with them successfully survived, and their genes are more represented in the gene pool."

Men, on the other hand, might have been less bothered by painful experiences so they could persevere and kill whatever they needed to kill to bring it home so everybody could eat, he says. Those evolutionary pressures could have some representation in today's modern society when it comes to the perception of pain.

One question researchers are only starting to look into is whether transitioning from one sex to another makes a difference in how people perceive pain.

Fillingim points to the findings in one study that suggest individuals transitioning from male to female experienced more pain after the transition, whereas for individuals transitioning from female to male, there weren't many changes in pain after the transition.

"Whether that was a result of the hormonal therapies that were part of the transition or the surgical experience or other factors, I don't think we really know," he says.

It's a fascinating new area of study, Fillingim says, and one that will likely become increasingly important in coming years.


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KEYWORDS: mgtow; pain; redpill; women
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To: BenLurkin

21 posted on 08/27/2019 8:09:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 9YearLurker; Blueflag
If you could so tolerate pain, what’s up with getting the joint replacement?

Tolerating pain works on a short term basis better than on a long term one.

Since 'pain' is all a mental construct in the brain, even if you learn to tolerate it, the mind will eventually force you to 'feel' it again. It is the body's way of protecting itself from death.

22 posted on 08/27/2019 8:11:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m female, and I have a high pain threshold. Of course, I am only one individual so that is not a scientific study.


23 posted on 08/27/2019 8:11:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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To: Tell It Right; wastoute
The whole concept of women handling pain better than men is a fictional concept that’s been stated over and over simply because it’s hard to prove or disprove. They had to find something to make it sound like women who abort babies are as tough as men who daily work physical labor to bring home the bacon.

It is more likely that men and women feel pain equally, but women make more of a drama about it.

24 posted on 08/27/2019 8:15:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: arthurus

I draw the line at “no beer either”


25 posted on 08/27/2019 8:18:04 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: dp0622
But back to the point...why the privates and not legs and arms?

Because it's what the other cool kids are doing ?

26 posted on 08/27/2019 8:26:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: wastoute

Exactly!


27 posted on 08/27/2019 8:29:20 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Blueflag
When she was in 7th grade, my daughter tore her ACL in a soccer game. Finished the game. (But definitely limped over to mommy after the game). Doc said no way is was torn thru as she couldn’t have finished the game. Welp. MRI showed differently. She had ACL replacement surgery. Took one Percocet (in hospital), came home and said she would never take that again and declined even Tylenol unless it was too unbearable to sleep.

Some people just have a different tolerance for different things.

As a matter of fact, when that daughter was born, she was 9lbs, 8oz, the 2nd biggest head in the county that year (at that hospital), AND came out with shoulder dystocia. (She came out like a football player plowing thru to The goalline, per my mother in law!) I did it all with no drugs. BUT if I were EVER to go the dentist, I would need any and everything they could offer. I would want to know why I had veins which did not have IVs loaded with painkillers dripping into them....even if both arms were already hooked up. I would want to start taking morphine the night...or week..before any appointment. I am a total baby about mouth stuff!

good luck with the new knee! Hope rehab remains easy for you. Ortho says that is in my future...that was 1.5 years ago and I haven’t gone back yet. Kinda putting that off. :)

28 posted on 08/27/2019 8:29:43 AM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: arthurus

At this point (20 years) , those meds are only about 10% effective be. Ibuprofen would work better.


29 posted on 08/27/2019 8:30:57 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: BenLurkin

Oh she may be woolly
Them young girls they do get woolly
Wearing that same old shaggy dress, yeah, yeah
But when she gets woolly
Try a little tenderness, yeah, yeah.

— sort of from the movie Bull Durham


30 posted on 08/27/2019 8:32:33 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("I'm mad, y'all" -- Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)
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To: BenLurkin

When it says “may,” I discount the entire article.

Does this apply to a trans “woman”?


31 posted on 08/27/2019 8:45:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: BenLurkin
Pain is subjective, everyone feels it differently, and the pain of surgeries and childbirth(for example) are transitory pain which both the mind and body soon forget. Perhaps one reason for the conclusion of this study isn't that women feel pain more or men less but because up until the past couple of decades boys were taught from an early age to just tough it out and take/tolerate the pain.

in the case of long term debilitating pain, I doubt believe as a whole there is one wit of a difference between men and women and the abuse of opiates,on the whole, has more to do with having an addictive personality.

Anyway that's my two cents as a long term pain sufferer that surgery has not alleviated and depend, but not dependent on, Opiates to manage my pain. I'll add that I have never once felt any kind of high from the Opiates I take and clearly don't understand those that say they do.

32 posted on 08/27/2019 8:48:57 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: BenLurkin

What a tortured attempt at putting a positive spin on being more sensitive to pain. Why don’t they just call it differently sensitized or something?


33 posted on 08/27/2019 8:50:29 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: UCANSEE2

But why is it LEGAL and actually ENFORCED to chop off a #### but if you want to get a limb amputated a doctor who did it would go to prison.


34 posted on 08/27/2019 9:07:28 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: BenLurkin

Hardly. Men whine over the least little cold virus.


35 posted on 08/27/2019 9:20:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: HollyB

It does what I need it to do and besides, it’s cheaper at this point. I already have it.


36 posted on 08/27/2019 10:17:39 AM PDT by arthurus (de c bgt v,iss)
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To: Deaf Smith

For me, at least, beer has the most obvious effects on the gout.


37 posted on 08/27/2019 10:18:43 AM PDT by arthurus (de c b8t v,iss)
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To: BenLurkin

God gave women two sets of lips so they could piss and moan at the same time.


38 posted on 08/27/2019 10:25:06 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: dp0622

I read an article years ago that explained it succinctly-women feel more pain because of their hormones, which makes sense in that we are designed to feel more due to our primary role as mothers or potential mothers.


39 posted on 08/27/2019 2:29:30 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Yeah but...child birth!!

I don’t like talking about this stuff but it seems like something that would be physically impossible but it obviously isn’t. (I dont have kids).

Can’t imagine something more agonizing.

That’s why I always thought women handle pain better.


40 posted on 08/27/2019 2:42:16 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company PeoTill the day I die.)
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