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Toyota to test solar panels for electric cars
Tech.Xplore.com ^ | July 6, 2019 | Nancy Cohen

Posted on 07/07/2019 7:09:46 PM PDT by ETL

What's not to like about this concept: high-efficiency solar cells gifting electric cars with mileage.

Bertel Schmitt, The Drive, said, "The solar roof could morph from mostly a marketing-device to a helpful feature."

He noted that, referring to plug-ins, "On a fair-weather day, the juice would be provided by the sun, a big improvement especially for people who don't have their own garage."

Toyota has ambitions over the concept and is to start testing an onboard solar recharging system where the hood, the roof, and back are covered with cells.

The solar roof can charge while the car is on the move.

It did not escape Interesting Engineering's notice that the new solar battery cell can fit a larger surface.

"The solar battery cell is a thin film about 0.03 mm thick.

Because it is so thin, it can fit the curves of the vehicle including the roof, hood, and rear hatch door," said the report.

Darrell Etherington, TechCrunch, said at center stage was the new and improved version of the solar cells previously launched on the Japan-exclusive Prius PHV.

The Toyota news release said "the demo car employs a system that charges the driving battery while the vehicle is parked and also while it's being driven."

This was seen as an interesting development expected to lead to improvements in the electric car's cruising range and fuel efficiency.

"Previously, the Prius PHV charged the driving battery only while the vehicle was parked.

However, with improvements in power generation output, the demo car employs a system that charges while the vehicle is being driven.

This is expected to boost the BEV-mode cruising range and significantly," said Toyota.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: hybrids; nice; solar; solarpower; theytookmyidea; toyota; twofaced; youaskedforit
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To: butlerweave
Why not wind-up cars

They're already out there on the road.





21 posted on 07/07/2019 7:37:12 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: mrsmith
Cars generate wind when they’re in operation. Just put a wind turbine on ‘em...

Well, cows 'generate' a lot of gas, so, why not put a cow or two on a car's roof, or provide a trailer behind the vehicle to carry around your own fuel?

Alternately, how 'bout going back to the horse-drawn carriage? Or the coal-fired engine like locomotives used to have?
22 posted on 07/07/2019 7:38:58 PM PDT by adorno
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To: ETL

23 posted on 07/07/2019 7:39:00 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY

Wow! Seagulls ought to love that one!


24 posted on 07/07/2019 7:40:35 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: ETL
A Prius is 183 inches long and 69 inches wide. It looks like the panels have about 75% coverage, so that's about 6 square meters. That's a maximum of 6 kilowatts. At 25% efficiency that's 1.5kW maximum of charging or driving power. Wikipedia lists a Tesla 3 as using 26 kWh/100 miles. Assuming the Prius is similar, you would have enough charge after an hour in noon sun at the equater to drive a little more than 5 miles.
25 posted on 07/07/2019 7:42:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Who's the leader of the club that feeds on dead babies? M-O-L... O-C-H... M-O-U-S-E.)
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To: MV=PY

Do you know if acidic seagull droppings will eat through the top layer?


26 posted on 07/07/2019 7:42:16 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: adorno

Better to uses horses or oxen.
Get the fuel and the horsepower!

(And maybe a way to switch from oxen in city driving to horses on the highway.)

You may see solar power coatings on drones before cars.


27 posted on 07/07/2019 7:45:44 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ETL
bout enough to run the dome light, if you don't open the doors to often
28 posted on 07/07/2019 7:49:16 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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To: KarlInOhio

5 miles might get you to a gas station.
Where you could call a tow truck to take you to a charging station.


29 posted on 07/07/2019 7:51:15 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Paladin2

“Not enough surface area to generate any significant energy compared to typical vehicle use.”

Using the newest super efficient (34%) solar cells, and plastering the whole top surface and most of the rear window/hatch, they seem to be getting into the low end of the ball park. Not a standalone power source for a real general purpose vehicle, but possibly for a short haul urban commuter vehicle (or golf cart), or to run A/C and a TV/computer for many hours at a halt.

“The solar module with an 860 Watts output enough to power a small microwave could add 44.5 km, or some 28 miles, to the pure-electric range of the car. What’s more, the new module provides solar power also when the car is driven, resulting in a total sun-provided pure battery range of 56.3 km, or 35 miles. All data as per Toyota’s press release, non-EPA, your solar mileage may differ.

Considering that Toyota rates the pure electric range of a standard-issue Prius PHV at 68 km (42 miles), or 25 mile EPA, the bottom line of this experiment is that with those new solar cells, owners of a plug-in Prius would no longer have to plug in.” (On a fair-weather day).


30 posted on 07/07/2019 7:51:53 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: KarlInOhio

Or, for a retiree or person working from home you could potentially have a hundred miles or more of range to work with if the car is parked outside in a given sunny week, and still maybe half that in overcast. I can see that being very appealing under certain circumstances if the car is not too awfully expensive. Buying one off lease that’s a few years old might be a good deal if the battery and solar don’t degrade much in that time. I’ve heard of first generation Priuses being used as taxis abroad going many hundreds of thousands of miles without the battery pack going bad. Something to consider, could be a great thing for a second vehicle or primary if you do mostly local driving. Have to keep the roof clean and clear though, not a vehicle for someone who seldom washes their car.


31 posted on 07/07/2019 7:52:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: mrsmith

Why aren’t ‘free market’ charging stations showing up? Charge an arm and a leg, but it’s worth it.
Or maybe they are.


32 posted on 07/07/2019 7:53:16 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ETL

I patented a 857 mile long extension cord...but nobody seemed interested.


33 posted on 07/07/2019 7:56:43 PM PDT by moovova
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To: hinckley buzzard

Dittos to your post #11.


34 posted on 07/07/2019 8:00:07 PM PDT by tflabo (Prince of Peace, Lion of Righteousness)
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To: ETL

Screw that—I’m gonna put a mast and a damned bowsprit on my Honda Odyssey and raise me a big fat ol’ spinnaker to haul me down Rt. 95.


35 posted on 07/07/2019 8:00:45 PM PDT by _longranger81 (Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves; defend the defenseless; care for the unloved.)
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To: ETL

Get back to me when they do this with wind turbines.


36 posted on 07/07/2019 8:09:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ETL

That will buff right out will lose it’s meaning entirely.

A fenderbender would mean replacing solar panels at
what cost???


37 posted on 07/07/2019 8:12:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ETL
I don't think they will sell a car like this, but they are testing out some tech, like integrating the solar cells into the electrical system. No one except a fanatic would buy an ugly car like this.

Various companies are working on solar cells that are integrated with windows, so that the windows of office buildings, for example, can produce power. Others are working on solar cells that can be applied like paint. If Toyota made solar cells out of the windows, the car could produce some extra power, and look exactly the same are their current cars.

38 posted on 07/07/2019 8:13:51 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: moovova
I patented a 857 mile long extension cord...but nobody seemed interested.

Was THAT you on the show?? I thought the idea sounded familiar!



Electric-powered automobiles...

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"a 857 mile long extension cord..."

39 posted on 07/07/2019 8:22:22 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Solar cells are not cheap. Wonder how much this will increase the insurance premium?

Wonder if the solar cells will be a magnet for thieves?


40 posted on 07/07/2019 8:37:50 PM PDT by upchuck (No muzzy is fit to hold public office - their cult (religion) is incompatible with the Constitution.)
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