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Jordan Peterson on Catholicism: ‘That’s as sane as people can get’
LifeSiteNews ^ | May 27, 2019 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

May 27, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Speaking with one of the best-known conservative Jews, Dennis Prager, at the PragerU summit last week, world-famous psychologist Jordan Peterson spoke of God and his views of faith. After speaking about his dislike for the question ‘Do you believe in God?’ Peterson said, “I think that Catholicism — that's as sane as people can get.”

Peterson has often been asked about his faith, if he believes in God, and he said the question has always troubled him. He promised a podcast on the matter since he has given his dislike for the question much thought.

He explained, “Who would have the audacity to claim that they believed in God if they examined the way they lived? Who would dare say that?”

“To believe, in a Christian sense,” he added, “means that you live it out fully and that's an that's an unbearable task in some sense.”

Then in one long drawn-out, rapid-fire thought, the type that has enthralled his millions of fans, he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:

“To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.”

See the full exchange of Peterson and Prager here.


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To: Mrs. Don-o
However, the description caught me so off guard that I found myself reevaluating what communion might mean..."

My guard has never dropped so far as to believe any of that stuff that Rome purports to claim as FACT.

861 posted on 06/06/2019 7:28:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The consistency of Christians’ belief for two millennia puts your skepticism at a disadvantage.

You have no knowledge of those 7 Catholic churches in Asia that the angel told John to WRITE to??

862 posted on 06/06/2019 7:29:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Nay Ma’am: we sure do NOT compete;
When crafting cute rhymes oh so sweet.
We encourage each other;
Whether Sister or Brother;
To cling to the ROCK - not Saint Pete.


863 posted on 06/06/2019 7:33:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Time is Nature’s way of making sure that everything does not happen at once.


864 posted on 06/06/2019 7:34:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ealgeone
Well, it hasn't quite come to that, yet, but you can see how it's trending. I just came in from class, and I'm going to bed. Let's get off the Jordan Peterson thread, because nobody has even alluded to the original topic for the past 750 replies. God bless you, and have a good night.

I don't know which comments you've been reading but there has been nothing BUT discussion on why we disagree with Peterson's view that Catholicism is "as sane as people can get"! He's not a Christian so I doubt he is aware of the many MAJOR differences in theology between Catholicism and Orthodoxy and Protestantism. I think how a person views his relationship with Almighty God has a huge influence in how he lives and why he lives that way. Peterson made this observation when he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:

    “To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.”

If I live my life in obedience to God because I fear His wrath and eternal hellfire, I will NEVER have the kind of peace and assurance of God's love that He desires for me and it will influence every motivation I might have for doing good.

865 posted on 06/06/2019 7:37:03 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We are allmembers of the One Body.

"WE" who?

It is ABUNDANTLY clear that ROME does NOT consider ME to be a member of the body; so how can YOU?

866 posted on 06/06/2019 7:37:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

Mussed hair is MUCH better than none;
For yer scalp can get scorched by the sun.
Best put on a cap;
‘fore ya open yer yap;
Lest ye stumble while making a pun.


867 posted on 06/06/2019 7:41:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Excellent! Good job.


868 posted on 06/06/2019 7:41:26 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Well, it hasn't quite come to that, yet, but you can see how it's trending.

Oh?

"Those who don't learn from history..."


869 posted on 06/06/2019 7:43:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
 

Aw...  shucks...
 


870 posted on 06/06/2019 7:46:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums; Elsie; metmom; MHGinTN
BB is very famous for living on a house boat
Whose home is her castle, except for the moat
In a bad rain storm
Her abode is so warm
There’s no worry, cuz her house will still float.

OK BB. The ball is in your court. 😁🙃👍😀

I still say this is more fun, that reading all sorts of false religious doctrines. 🙃

871 posted on 06/06/2019 8:42:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Scripture is right because it’s God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Truth, and whatever agrees with that is correct and whatever doesn’t is wrong.


872 posted on 06/06/2019 9:45:20 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: boatbums; Mrs. Don-o; ealgeone
The only sacrifices we are to give are these....

Romans 12:1-2 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Hebrews 13:15-16 Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name. Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.

873 posted on 06/06/2019 9:52:19 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

:)


874 posted on 06/06/2019 9:54:31 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ealgeone; MHGinTN; daniel1212; metmom; Elsie; Mark17; Luircin
Maybe what is cut and dried is that the RESULT of the once-for-all sacrifice is what the altar in heaven represents. So, rather than the sacrifice being eternally offered by the eternal high priest, it is the benefit of it for all time for all those who are redeemed by it that is eternal. Scripture clearly teaches when Jesus offered His blood upon the mercy seat in heaven and it was accepted, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on High. He is a completely different Priest so His sacrifice is different

I just thought of this while in the shower...the earthly high priests went into Holy of Holies once a year on the Day of Atonement to make the sin offering of the blood of bulls and goats (they also made daily sacrifices), but the Yom Kippur was a special yearly sacrifice. This once-a-year offering was good for the whole year to make expiation for the sins of the people. But when Jesus, our Eternal and Permanent High Priest made sacrifice for sin He did it once for all when He offered up Himself. He did NOT enter heaven to offer Himself again and again, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. Otherwise, Christ would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But now He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

My ah-ha was that Jesus' single sacrifice was effective FOREVER. It never needed to be repeated nor "made present" since its result was the atonement of sin through His perfect blood offering.

875 posted on 06/06/2019 10:06:49 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Mark17

Very good...’cept we don’t live on the boat anymore. Boaters have pet names for other boaters. When we had the sailboat we were “rag-baggers” or “blow-boaters”. On the power boat we were “wake-makers”. When we moved to the house in NC we were “dirt-dwellers”. Now that we’re in a condo high rise I guess we could be called “sky-dwellers”? It sure was fun on the boat, though! I miss it sometimes. Sure looking forward to mansions in heaven. ;o)


876 posted on 06/06/2019 10:18:45 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: boatbums

Glory to God!


877 posted on 06/06/2019 10:30:35 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: boatbums
I just thought of this while in the shower..

Would I be correct in assuming, this is also where you got your Limerick too? 😁

My ah-ha was that Jesus' single sacrifice was effective FOREVER. It never needed to be repeated nor "made present" since its result was the atonement of sin through His perfect blood offering.

I believe you are correct BB. Since we know this to be true, and since I am an ex catholic, we always were told the mass was the unbloody sacrifice of the cross. My question is, why do the Romanists, continue pushing this blasphemous false doctrine on us? I don’t buy it.

878 posted on 06/06/2019 10:33:31 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: boatbums
I guess we could be called “sky-dwellers”? It sure was fun on the boat, though! I miss it sometimes. Sure looking forward to mansions in heaven. ;o)

Yes, the mansions. I could never come up with all those descriptions, but my friends call me the puti pinoy. 🎩

879 posted on 06/06/2019 10:46:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: ealgeone

Mrs.D, I know in your mind it’s not an ongoing sacrifice. I’m sure you’ve convinced yourself of that.

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If you can pull a quote from the CCC that’s typically enough to prove what Roman Catholic doctrine is.

(And if it’s not in their Catechism, I have to wonder why their writers keep talking about it.)


880 posted on 06/06/2019 11:33:01 PM PDT by Luircin
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