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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, We are Q. For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
Q is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as breadcrumbs. One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the Deep State of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnons Pernicious Connections to Pizzagate
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podestas (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminalsincluding child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the Pizzagate and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the Pizzagate conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 Next week [Next week] was declared suicide weekend. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 Q declares March Madness and that the public will soon know. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 April was supposed to be a BIG month, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, military start, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the Pizzagate fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House prove that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
Hey Blob, just for kicks suppose you tell us what class missile you think that is?
I’m sure Bragster can help you with the identification.
Man, you've been so wrong on this thread time and time again. First off, I'm not on Facebook so how can that be a friend?
Also if you bothered to check out the quote, it was from the person's Facebook who was connected to the weather station where the photo was taken, and it was in his comment section.
You are the one who made the stupid claim no one saw it but right there in the comment section, someone from that area said he saw some kind of flash in the sky happened. It only takes one who saw something to debunk your stupid claim. I have no doubt if we did more digging there are more people out there on social media who saw something.
Yes, and they all laughed when I told them the spin on that pic they were claiming it was a helicopter. That's why I continue to laugh at you keeping up that stupid claim.
CGato
Wow this thread is long!
When’s Festival?
I need some help with your “missile” photo Blob...can you tell me the exposure rate and iso setting used. Also what model camera created that image and how far away from the “missile” was it?
All but how far away the “missile” was, is available at the site that took the pic.
~Easy Peasy
it’s a bell ranger missile
No it a Huey Cobra missile
No it’s a Black hawk missile
No it’s a Chinook missile
maybe it’s a rescue missile
Yeah that’s it a rescue missile
A pilot said so
And if you must know:
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It was a Canon T3 Rebel set up as a webcam. Images are captured about every 40-45 seconds. 3.5/20 second exposure/ 1600iso.
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But seeing as you can’t even tell the difference between a heilcopter and a missile, I’m sure that’s just gibberish to you
You might also like this part of the article
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“With this information in hand, we reached out the Naval Air Station Whidbey Island to see if there were any aircraft operations around the time of the photo. Not surprisingly, there weren’t. The public affairs officer went to air operations directly to confirm this for us. We then reached out to Seattle Center’s public relations representative and they checked into it and said the FAA had no idea what it was and had no anomalies on radar or strange reports that morning that would explain the image.”
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I’ll give you this you have an extremely high tolerance for humiliation Lol
I have no idea, mickety. What am I, a rocket scientist?
The cool part is, even a retard could tell that was a missile launch just by looking at the pic.
Funny, though. You can't.
Sub-retard?
Stop beclowning yourself. It's over man. You've died on this hill. Let's call it "helicopter hill" and move on to your next hilarious exploit. You're better than cartoons.
I'm almost starting to like you, mickety.
This is bizarro Festival, Cali. A world in which EVERY day is festival. Here, Festival is where everybody gets along for 24 hours.
You see “reasoned argument” anywhere in this thread by any of the Qult?
Not a single person even attempted to address the numerically listed points about the QAnon hoax in the article.
Not. A. One.
Deal with it.
AIrHORN
Festival begins when preying insect posts new Q droppings (re: crap) and then “decodes” them asking for money.
April has been scarce as the QAnon hoaxers have been getting exposed and are on the run.
Enjoy Festival hoaxing because it’s about to go bye bye.
Yes we have several times but you just ignore it pretend it didn’t happen and make the same dumb claims
For example you still have not posted where Q said Mueller and Trump are working together you make some half asses claimed that someone else said it but never back it up
Pathetic
Regarding your generals’ videos, I’m in agreement that cyberspace is a battlefield. However, that doesn’t change my belief that Qanon is a hoax that needs to be ended.
This ongoing debate about a supposed unauthorized missile launch directed at AF1 is a good example of the problem these internet hoaxsters represent.
Can you tell me the names and driver's license numbers of all the people who use to try to "prove a negative" and who you claim 'dint see nuffem"?
And please explain how nobody in the densely populate metropolis saw a helicopter rocketing into space leaving a smoke trail with flames shooting out of its tail as it lifted off into the clouds?
Surely SOMEBODY saw THAT phenomenon and went on record, right?
Oh, and please explain why the military base issued a statement regarding a routine helicopter training exercise that NOBODY SAW.
Do you live in the real world?
Your logic is non-existent, helicopter boy. Just so you know.
I heard that on the internet.
Duh.
The stupid lies exposed by QAnon are legion.
None of you addressed the itemized points listed by NUMBER in the article.
None. Zero. Zip. Nada.
All we get is Scientology blathering distracting from those valid facts.
It’s pretty sad.
“You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into.”
The Qult
Yes I did where is the proof of Mueller and Trump?
Dude, I did.
I called the entire article bunk and balderdash, just like your feeble defense of the shady PAC that shady Gorka got paid by. He got rolled up out of the White House by the very people he's attempting to "debunk" with these vague, general, and WRONG talking points.
Ain't nobody got time fo dat. Ye feel me?
Your article is bunk, your MAGA Coalition is bunk, Gorka is bunk, and you are bunk.
There. Settled.
Questions?
Have a nice evening.
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