The Truth About Q-Anon

Dr. Seb Gorka homepage ^ | April 8, 2019 | Dr. Seb Gorka

[romanesq]

During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.

“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.

The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.

What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?

That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.

QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”

Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.

The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.

Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.

Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.

The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.

Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:

01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.

01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.

01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.

02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.

03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.

04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.

Where Does QAnon Go From Here?

Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.

AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.

The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.

But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.

Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.

In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.

[BiggBob]

That’s Merely a coincidence
I saw a tweet earlier from a Twitter follower of Sebastian gorka’s second cousins ex-wife that says it doesn’t mean anything.

LoL

[Conservative Gato]

Funny how you demand answers but fail to answer those directed towards you.

Maybe you can explain to us why they are BOTH on the same attack-Q page?

It is strange you and your maga coalition site being on the same side as our corrupt media in attacking this Q movement. You will also have to understand, the Q movement has proved time and again it is on the MAGA train (see my post about a now peaceful North Korea a few posts ago). There have been plenty of pictures of American Patriots around the country showing their support for President Trump and the Q movement.

It does beg the question on why your so-called maga site would be on the same attack-Q narrative, the same coming from our enemy media, in attacking this MAGA movement. It's very hypocritical of you to demand answers of others and ignore the questions you don't like but I've seen that in trollish behavior before.

CGato

[Conservative Gato]

NICE!!!

WWG1WGA!!!

CGato

[mac_truck]

Because you say so?

No, because there is a reasonable scientific explanation for what is shown in that time lapse video still that is corroborated up by several competent independent eyewitnesses.

Not to mention the complete absurdity of the assertion that a ballistic missile was launched from a submarine in the direction of AF1 from the middle of a highly populated area like Puget Sound...but no one saw it.

So go ahead and present your corroborating evidence for the 'missile launch'. Which submarine commanders were involved? How high up the chain of command did the conspiracy go? Which foreign governments went on high alert, scrambled fighter jets or complained publicly about the unauthorized ballistic missile launch?

And what was the White House response to this attempt on the President's life? I'm sure the highly trained Secret squirrels on the Q-team of didn't take this attempt on the President's life lightly and allow the perps to just get away with it..did they?

/lolz...

[bagster]

Big deal.

So why did the records state "consulting fees" rather than "whatever event".

Your argument is getting less strident as you become less sure of your facts, sir.

I don't blame you, though. It's one thing to come across all blustery and Doctor Know-It-All and quite another to have your B.S. challenged with the actual facts YOU cited in the first place.

Consulting fees are not "events".

You can look that up.

What do you make of this line in a Q post regarding your precious money laund...er, I mean PAC.

Monthly installment payments made to ‘names’ who can attract ‘more donations’? (the “wheel”)

So they pay Gorka for "consulting" and he's such a big 'wheel' that other people donate to the PAC because his name's attached.

So basically, Gorka did nothing but sell his name so the PAC could increase incoming cash. Again, that's a real world lesson for you.

That's just part of the whole PAC scam. And what do you make of what bukkake Cates said about paying that ex convict and known fraudster all them duckets? Nothing? Is bukkake all you got on that one?

And then there's this, from Q, in the same post.

Track donations vs. expenses.
Admin, fundraising, strategy & research, etc etc expenses highly inflated?
Monthly installment payments made to ‘names’ who can attract ‘more donations’? (the “wheel”)
How much ‘donated’ money was actually spent promoting MAGA / PRO_MAGA candidates (indirectly) vs. internal costs or ‘wheel’ costs?

Pay attention to the term "inflated costs" and the question about how much "donated" money was actually spent promoting MAGA and PRO MAGA candidates as opposed to internal costs and wheel (Gorka) payments.

And now we come to the crux of the matter. The "why" of Gorka bad-mouthing Q.

When you offer ‘better’ goods and services for free there is no longer a need to ‘donate’ ‘purchase’ and/or ‘follow’ those who would use such platforms to enrich themselves. (hence the ‘attacks’)

Q says here that the Q team offers "better" goods and services (MAGA) for the low, low price of NOTHING, than these organizations (and a host of other so-called paytriots like Jerome Corsi, Alex Jones, and our very own LS).

Bottom line is, Q cuts into these people's profits because he offers a "better product" for no cast, and THAT's why the fake MAGAS of the world talk trash on the legitimate entity that is Q.

We find this phenomenon all throughout the political world and over the internet. As people vie for "followers" and "donations". From Twitter, to YouTube, to cable television, and even to so-called MAGA pacs.

Calling yourself MAGA don't necessarily make you MAGA, btw. MAGA means a specific thing, and we all know whaet that is. And lining your pocket ain't on the docket.

And that is why that article at the top of this thread exists and why you are extolling it and Gorka and the MAGA Coalition's virtue so vigorously.

Is that enough truth for you all at once?

Let that sink in before you pop off with some dopey cliché which you've repeated ad nauseum all along this thread.

[bagster]

So you called Seb Gorka a grifter because he exposed the QAnon hoax (like many others I might add.)

Yea, that's part of it. I was wondering exactly why a so-called MAGA man would bash MAGA Q like that, and then it hit me. I explained it very well in that last huge post I just made. I won't repeat it.

But yea, he's a grifter for sure.

Or else he wouldn't bash Q. Why would he?

Gorka's supposedly MAGA. Q is definitely MAGA. So what's up with THAT?

I get the same puzzlement from MAGA FReepers bashing us MAGA Qtards. It's hard to make sense of. But I have some theories, and with the help of Q, I understand now. One good thing about Q is, he encourages you to see past the fog and once your brain is trained to throw off the shackles of a lifetime of indoctrination, things become very clear.

Yea, Gorka is about Gorka. Pure politician, and I say that in the most disparaging way possible.

There are very few Donald Trump type patriots in DC. They can mostly be found in the Military and "certain" intelligence services and maybe low-level law enforcement (FBI). And that's why he surrounds himself with military patiots and not Gorkas. Ya dig?

[EasySt]

When you get done playing “Chew Toy” for our guard dogs, perhaps you’ll
Respond to my posts.

I won’t hold my breath.

~Easy

[Boogieman]

“I started following this Q movement about a month after they started posting and kept an open mind about it.”

So before or after all the initial 4chan predictions that turned out spectacularly wrong? (martial law, Hillary arrested, military tribunals, etc)

“When we found out North Korea fell and there would be peace between them and us, we knew this info far before anyone else did through this Q back channel.”

Yet that still turned out to be just more false info, as Q claimed wrongly that there was already an agreement in place with the summit just being theater, and we see now that no, there is no agreement and NK is still playing the same old games.

[Boogieman]

Some of those aren’t even predictions (for example, FISA abuse has already been “made public”). Others are patently obvious (there will be reports on stuff, well, yeah, duh). Others are certainly not going to happen (your military tribunal fantasy, etc).

[Boogieman]

Yeah, sure, don’t bet me. Fraidy cat.

[bagster]

Squirt! Squirt!

Oh, hey. That reminds me. Brian Cates dropped this off for you in the lobby.

He said something about requesting another blumpkin? Not sure what that means, but thought I'd pass it on, since we're pals now.

[BiggBob]

You spelled competent wrong

PS bagster didn't claim it came from sub,

YOU DID

Good job debunking yourself Lol

Man bagster no wonder these guys can't connect any dots they don't even have the to sense to remember what they said

Nice try though mac

Hawaii missile alert

[bagster]

Lol your faux outrage
Pew! pew!

Extra credit on that one, BB, for going right to the heart of the shill's argument.

FINISH HIM!

[Conservative Gato]

Such terrible info you are getting.

Do you realize it’s our corrupt enemy media still propping up North Korea as the boogeyman for their own political purposes? You’re so behind the times and have been taken in by their lies.

BTW, the NSA just trolled all of you anti-Q folks in the pic, M. Thatcher just posted in this thread, LOL.

CGato

[bagster]

Sara Carter and Jon Solomon are plugged into the White House via the Q team?

Yeppers, they are.

I'd prove it to you but you already don't believe what I would tell you. So I won't waste my time.

Hint: Q told me.

Ahahahahahahahaha.

See? Told ya you wouldn't believe.

You're gonna have to pull your head outta your coolo before you can even hear me, goodman. And I say that with all affection. Truly.

[bagster]

Tell us also about the people posting as QAnon who also seek payments as they “decode” their posts.

And not a one of those so-called "paytriots" are on the list of "free" Q research that BB provided you.

Your false equivalency is wearing thin, shill.

You are the hoax.

[bagster]

maybe you should start your own book where you can tell people what sebastian gorka’s book says.

No need. He's doing that right here on this thread. Sadly, he can't monetize.

[bagster]

The NSA just posted this on its official Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/NSAGov/status/1116774531195183104

What a strange coincidence.

Would you be a dear and post that on the Q thread, Maggie (if you haven't already)?

I bet we see THAT in a Q posting today.

[BiggBob]

That's your opinion

Lol you claiming you've seen the Fisa docs

Maybe you can tell us the difference between alleged and made public?

I wonder what me Senator Graham and Senator Feinstein know that you don't?

Feinstein question 9th circuit judge nominee Judge Collins about military trials for domestic terrorists

Senator Graham questions SCOTUS nominee Kavanaugh about the difference between civilian and military law

Don't worry you'll know soon enough it has to be frustrating for you being months behind the news curve

[bagster]

No, because there is a reasonable scientific explanation for what is shown in that time lapse video still that is corroborated up by several competent independent eyewitnesses.

You're probly right, Mickety. You've convinced me. It was a helicopter hiding in the clouds shooting down a beam of light. It just LOOKED like a missile launch.

I just don't know what gets into me sometimes.

*rolls eyes*

But on the serious tip, whatever bogosity you come up with, that was a missile launch. Undeniably so. The more you screech that it wasn't the more the fool you look.

p.s. Don't worry. Retribution (PAIN) is coming.