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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, We are Q. For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
Q is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as breadcrumbs. One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the Deep State of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnons Pernicious Connections to Pizzagate
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podestas (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminalsincluding child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the Pizzagate and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the Pizzagate conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 Next week [Next week] was declared suicide weekend. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 Q declares March Madness and that the public will soon know. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 April was supposed to be a BIG month, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, military start, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the Pizzagate fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House prove that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
Mark
You posted an image of a flashlight
FAA says nothing was on radar
Naval air station says no aircraft operating away that time
With this information in hand, we reached out the Naval Air Station Whidbey Island to see if there were any aircraft operations around the time of the photo. Not surprisingly, there werent. The public affairs officer went to air operations directly to confirm this for us. We then reached out to Seattle Centers public relations representative and they checked into it and said the FAA had no idea what it was and had no anomalies on radar or strange reports that morning that would explain the image.
Days later media claims it was a helicopter. Lol
Seriously you have done more to prove it was a flashlight than it was a helicopter
Tell me does one have to file a flight plan with the FAA?
Does one need permission to fly over a naval bases airspace?
Where is the rotor?
And, voilà!
Freshly laundered money!
Lol the news that lied to you for the last decade is telling you the truth now,
LOLZ
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/22/worst-fake-news-stories-cnn-nbc-2018/
jussie smollet
Covington kids
Brett kavanuagh
Russian collusion
But this time the media is being honest
Hahahahahaha
Quit while you are behind
I am so glad I am just a housewife.
That’s a terrible drawing, you would think they would put more time in it to make it at least respectable. Makes kinganon look like a dork, LOL. What a meme fail!
CGato
Thank you!!!
This thread has been nothing but this poster spamming for magacoalition.com.
Thank you for all your good work on the Q threads as well.
CGato
Pretty sure the Kitsap Sun and MyNorthwest.com aren't part of any grand cabal to deceive the public about secret missile launches in the middle of Puget Sound...but then, I'm not a paranoid CT nut-job either.
Big bird (no relation) sings for the troll
One of these things is not like the others
One of these things just doesn't belong
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?
Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
Yeah but you’re also pretty sure that a flashlight looks like ahelicopter
So there’s that
Yeah, mac_truck’s dead horse is almost beaten to a pulp now, LOL
CGato
:)Your right it’s spam.Reading Gorka now and the comment section.
You’re not smart enough to understand the science and lack the common sense to admit it.
Good luck washing off the dumb.
It really does look like a missile launch if you just look at it casually, weather blogger Cliff Mass, who shared the photo on his blog on Monday, told KIRO Radios Dori Monson.
KOMO 4 News contacted NAS Whidbey and found that the base does not launch missiles. There were also no Naval ships in the area.
Mass, however, has a different theory.
What I think it probably was was a helicopter, he said. Someone checked on all the various planes that were flying at that time, and it turns out there was a helicopter that went right over that location at the perfect time.
Mass pointed out that no one reported hearing the sounds made by a rocket or seeing any sort of bright light that one would expect from a rocket blasting off.
The explanation, Mass said, is a bit of an optical illusion.
You look at the picture, you think somethings taking off but it could be just the opposite, he said. It could be something over you thats going away from you, and it could give the same visual impression.
He explained that if the helicopter is traveling at a constant height, as it travels away from you, it appears to get lower and lower. Using a 20-second exposure like the one used by Johnson, this could manifest itself as a vertical line in the sky.
If the plane was going absolutely horizontal, it could give the impression that it was a vertical rocket or something, he explained. It could look the same way and its just because of the perspective.
If this explanation is true, that means Puget Sounders are safe from Kim Jong-un for the time being.
I see - so you prefer a higher level of grifter. Because your antics on this thread are exactly like theirs are on every single President tweet.
Damn what a shame, if only the opinion of a troll that can’t tell the difference between a helicopter and a flashlight even mattered to me...
So how many science class credits are required to obtain a CDL?
Do tell....
And thinking that Netanyahu’s nickname is spelled “Bibbi” and he controls Q, apparently.
I would be so embarrassed to be publicly stupid like this.
I prefer to see President Trump unencumbered by grifters who will harm him and the QAnon hoaxers have done plenty of that already, witness the midterms, “Trust Sessions,” etc. ad nauseum.
People here are probably unaware that a Qult follower in NJ recently blew away a man in Staten Island.
He then appeared in court flashing a Q sign on his hand to the press with those remarkably stupid QAnon phrases.
Then his lawyer told ABC News that his client was part of a right-wing conspiracy cult and also blamed President Trump.
As if these QAnon grifters targeting the Baby Boomers of their money wasn’t bad enough. Yes, there are inside documents obtained that they mapped out that as their “business plan.”
More recent, I’ve heard they are now hiring social media professionals so they can milk more of the naive and innocent of their money.
What can you expect from preying insect and co. though? These people have very checkered records.
No matter how wrong QAnon scammers are wrong, they can just lie their way around it and keep scamming and keep collecting.
Q is cancer and as Seb Gorka himself said, “Q is garbage.” I wouldn’t be surprised that the cult is so deep in people’s heads that no matter who in the White House tells them that truth, they will be in denial.
It’s utterly sad.
President Trump isn’t encumbered by grifters he fired Gorka months ago, so did Fox news
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/25/white-house-aide-gorka-resigns-242054
White House aide Sebastian Gorka ousted from post
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/sebastian-gorka-no-longer-a-fox-news-contributor-1191971
Sebastian Gorka No Longer a Fox News Contributor
And meanwhile Trump could just tweet that Q isn’t real but instead he encourages it by sending tweets on March 17th of a Q in a maga hat
Pointing out q followers at rallies
Among others
Fatima called you out you are the grifter
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