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Posted on 03/10/2019 4:37:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Until now the study of Egypt’s population history has been largely based on literary and archaeological sources and inferences drawn from genetic diversity in present-day Egyptians. Both approaches have made crucial contributions to the debate but are not without limitations. On the one hand, the interpretation of literary and archaeological sources is often complicated by selective representation and preservation and the fact that markers of foreign identity, such as, for example, Greek or Latin names and ethnics, quickly became ‘status symbols’ and were adopted by natives and foreigners alike. On the other hand, results obtained by modern genetic studies are based on extrapolations from their modern data sets and make critical assumptions on population structure and time. The analysis of ancient DNA provides a crucial piece in the puzzle of Egypt’s population history and can serve as an important corrective or supplement to inferences drawn from literary, archaeological and modern DNA data. Despite their potential to address research questions relating to population migrations, genetic studies of ancient Egyptian mummies and skeletal material remain rare, although research on Egyptian mummies helped to pioneer the field of ancient DNA research with the first reported retrieval of ancient human DNA.
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I recall a DNA study some time ago that estimated that 20% of Egyptian DNA is like sub-Saharan African DNA. Of course the modern percentages may be different because of sub-Saharan Africans being imported in post-Roman times thanks to the Muslim trans-Saharan slave trade.
“And some of the mummies had red hair.”
Vikings landed there too!!/s
I’m amazed at how much and how far ancient people traveled.
Read about a very rare gene that is found in a small population in the middle east and in India. Did some research and it turns out it’s theorized that it’s becuz a group of Zoroastrians walked out of the middle east to escape Mohamed’s death squads on Christians.
“They were allies and then later, about a century after the Anthony and Cleopatra era”
If Cleo had her way (and she might very well have succeeded),
it would have been an empire centered on Alexandria, and not Rome. Alexandria was a key trade hub between east Asia, India, etc, and Rome. It was much wealthier and occupied a better, safer, geographic position.
Were they selling any Apple Computers back then?
But, but, but..... were the Egyptians.... black— like Michael Jackson said they were? THAT’s the important genome to identify— and avoid talking about the social construct in the Roman Empire that did not have anything but slavery in mind for the Egyptian colony (despite Rome’s dependency on Egyptian grain through the Aventine markets, and supplying the outer Empire and Legions.
Really— this “sub saharan” genome-— it be black, rite? Not sepia like obamaumao and the muzlim slave masters of white slavers.
More importantly is the huge number of Slaves traded across Africa during the 1200 years of the study.
Guess some Moslems and NOI moslems (Louie Farrakhan’s ‘crew’) will blame it all on the JOOSZ.
Why not? They blame everything on the Jews. Maybe Rep. Omer and Tlaib will add their scientific knowledge to this debate. Naaah! Why confuse them with facts?
What part of "increase" don't you understand?
They were using Palm back then, specifically, they relied on the calendar program, Date Palm.
The false dichotomy of that stark "were they black or white" is going on in Afrocentrism as well as right here on FR -- Egypt wasn't all one thing.
In their art, they were much more vernacular even while being stylized, typically showing men with darker skin (because they spent more time outdoors) and women with lighter skin (because they spent more time indoors). They also portrayed Asiatics (Semites, mostly) in specific ways, black Africans such that they are recognizable today, Keftiu, Pereset, etc -- and the importance of each human portrayed is often signaled by their relative sizes.
Greeks arrived in great numbers before, during, and after Persian rule, as did other less familiar groups who went where the action was. Roman rule meant former borders were down and transportation was simpler than it had ever been (and perhaps was going to be up until modern times) so there isn't much of a surprise that there were changes in the population's DNA. Roman rule had a nebulous boundary, and Roman influence via trade had a very great reach. A bear that was native to Africa was hugely popular in the Roman "games", and wound up extinct due to that use.
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Can I get back on your ping list?????
Love this stuff.
Absolutely, welcome back!
The artistic convention of showing men as darker and women as lighter (because of how much time they spend outdoors) is also found in Bronze Age Minoan/Mycenaean art. There were definitely contacts between the Minoans and the Egyptians—Sir Arthur Evans was able to create his chronology for Minoan civilization based on imported Egyptian artifacts, and Cretans are depicted in 2nd millennium Egyptian art. Also the Thera frescoes show blue monkeys which may have reached there via Egypt (Ethiopia is the northern end of their range).
Ok, interesting, but how is it relevant?
I read an interesting piece in the WSJ a few years ago. The author’s family were Alexandrian Jews who didn’t feel compelled to leave until after Nasser’s thugs seized power and made clear they and others with non-Arab ancestry were not welcome in the new Egypt.
My friend's father was probably in that modern Exodus.
My ancestors joined up with the Verisigoths but had to change plans because they got tired of all the Roman charges.
Your post isn't relevant.
Not surprised the Arab nationalists couldn't abide by it. I mean, Qutb couldn't abide by a sock hop in a church basement in Greeley, Colorado.
Fail to pay those, and you could have wound up in a *cell* somewhere.
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