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How climate change caused the world's first empire to collapse
Phys dot org (relying on non-science source for science article) ^ | January 3, 2019 | Vasile Ersek, The Conversation

Posted on 01/07/2019 10:15:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Fai Mao

I’ll look into it but it is my understanding that China was about 1,000 years behind Egypt and the middle east. India (Indus Valley) also had very old civilization too.


21 posted on 01/08/2019 1:40:12 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

The Indus valley is Mohenjo Daro.


22 posted on 01/08/2019 1:52:31 AM PST by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Titrus's failure -- probably due to a shifting in trade routes -- is also the key to its appeal to modern archaeologists."

Kind of like what happened to Rt. 1 when I 95 was built.

23 posted on 01/08/2019 2:12:24 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The vegan’s did it. Not enough good meat protein caused them to fart all these dry farts instead of wet ones which caused the drought.

You heard it here first. Did you hear that Al Gore? It was drought farts by vegan’s causing climate change!


24 posted on 01/08/2019 2:38:34 AM PST by Boomer (Leftists destroy everything they touch)
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To: SunkenCiv

Did they find any SUVs there, yet?


25 posted on 01/08/2019 4:15:29 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: a fool in paradise

Irresponsible use of campfires.


26 posted on 01/08/2019 4:18:05 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Slash and burn farming doesn’t impact global climate. We would be hearing about it instead of cow farts, SUVs, and air conditioning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn

Slash-and-burn agriculture, or fire–fallow cultivation, is a farming method that involves the cutting and burning of plants in a forest or woodland to create a field called a swidden. (Preparing fields by deforestation is called assarting.)

In subsistence agriculture, slash-and-burn typically uses little technology. It is often applied in shifting cultivation agriculture (such as in the Amazon rainforest) and in transhumance livestock herding.[1]

Slash-and-burn is used by 200–500 million people worldwide.[2][3] In 2004 it was estimated that in Brazil alone, 500,000 small farmers each cleared an average of one hectare (2.47105 acres) of forest per year[4]. The technique is not scalable or sustainable for large human populations.

...Historically, slash-and-burn cultivation has been practiced throughout much of the world, in grasslands as well as woodlands.

During the Neolithic Revolution, which included agricultural advancements, groups of hunter-gatherers domesticated various plants and animals, permitting them to settle down and practice agriculture, which provides more nutrition per hectare than hunting and gathering. This happened in the river valleys of Egypt and Mesopotamia. Due to this decrease in food from hunting, as human populations increased, agriculture became more important. Some groups could easily plant their crops in open fields along river valleys, but others had forests blocking their farming land.

In this context, humans used slash-and-burn agriculture to clear more land to make it suitable for plants and animals. Thus, since Neolithic times, slash-and-burn techniques have been widely used for converting forests into crop fields and pasture.[8] Fire was used before the Neolithic as well, and by hunter-gatherers up to present times. Clearings created by the fire were made for many reasons, such as to draw game animals and to promote certain kinds of edible plants such as berries.

...Southern European Mediterranean climates have favored evergreen and deciduous forests. With slash-and-burn agriculture, this type of forest was less able to regenerate than those north of the Alps. Although in northern Europe one crop was usually harvested before grass was allowed to grow, in southern Europe it was more common to exhaust the soil by farming it for several years.

Classical authors mentioned large forests,[12] with Homer writing about “wooded Samothrace,” Zakynthos, Sicily, and other woodlands.[13] These authors indicated that the Mediterranean area once had more forest; much had already been lost, and the remainder was primarily in the mountains.[14]


27 posted on 01/08/2019 4:31:56 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: jpsb

I saw three city-names that corresponded with the Exodus from Egypt.


28 posted on 01/08/2019 4:50:48 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The climate has been changing since God said “Let there be light.”


29 posted on 01/08/2019 5:43:00 AM PST by mc5cents (Pray for a new Pope)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds to me like a lack of crop rotation coupled with a drought not ‘climate change’.


30 posted on 01/08/2019 5:48:03 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Rashputin
Have archaeologists found any of their SUVs, pickup trucks, and smokestack industries?

Don't be silly. It was lawn mowers and BBQs that did it. I've seen the pictures.

31 posted on 01/08/2019 6:18:46 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: a fool in paradise
The same thing happened to the Anasazi Indians in the Southeastern United States.

I think it just goes to prove that climate changes, regardless of we little piss-ants do.

32 posted on 01/08/2019 6:30:12 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Fai Mao

Oh, my bad, thanks for the info.


33 posted on 01/08/2019 6:49:44 AM PST by jpsb
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To: SunkenCiv

They had not prepared for the lean years as the Egyptians had - in that same era - storing grain for future use.


34 posted on 01/08/2019 6:57:31 AM PST by Wuli
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To: GingisK

I was just about to mention the Anasazi, you beat me to it. Nobody ever seems to know about them....unless you’re from Az.


35 posted on 01/08/2019 1:07:30 PM PST by faturism (faturismbut'ty////////)
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To: faturism

AZ is one of my favorite places to visit. I think I have driven on every road by now. Shoot, I think Jerome is pretty cool. That is such a beautiful state!


36 posted on 01/08/2019 4:16:47 PM PST by GingisK
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