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Discovery of velvet bag may solve gory mystery of Walter Raleigh’s missing head
Guardian (UK) ^ | October 28, revised October 31, 2018 | David Batty

Posted on 11/03/2018 7:33:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A red silk velvet bag found in the attic of West Horsley Place, former home of Raleigh’s son, could have been used by Raleigh’s widow to carry around his embalmed head, according to the stately home and a historical costume expert.

Accounts of the beheading at the palace of Westminster, London, on 29 October 1618 record that the head was placed in a red bag, and that it and his body, wrapped in his nightgown, were taken away in a mourning coach by his widow.

...One biographer claimed his widow, Elizabeth, formerly Bess Throckmorton, a lady-in-waiting to Elizabeth I, had the head preserved in a case, while other accounts claim she kept it in a bag until her death at West Horsley Place, where she lived with her son Carew Raleigh and his family.

But historian Anna Beer, author of Patriot or Traitor: The Life and Death of Sir Walter Ralegh, cast doubt on the discovery, which she likened to other posthumous myths about Raleigh – such as those wrongly crediting him with introducing the potato to Britain and placing his cloak over a puddle for Queen Elizabeth.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: bessthrockmorton; britain; carewraleigh; england; fartyshadesofgreen; godsgravesglyphs; ireland; lizthrockmorton; sirwalterraleigh; westhorsleyplace
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To: Phil DiBasquette

A couple other oldies:

“The Ruptured Chinaman” by One Hung Low

“The Russian Milk Doctor” by I. Suckatitsky

You had a couple I hadn’t heard of before. Thanks for the laughs.

“Man who screws woman on ground has piece on earth”.

“Woman who flies plane upside down have crack up”.

Boy am I straining what is left of the old gray cells for these.


41 posted on 11/04/2018 1:25:41 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: centurion316

Damn.....I remember...


42 posted on 11/04/2018 2:13:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SunkenCiv

Fitting end to a creep who massacred 600 captured Spanish and Italian soldiers in violation of a surrender agreement in Ireland. They were there aiding the Irish in one of their revolts against the occupying British forces.


43 posted on 11/04/2018 2:28:21 AM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Just interested, why would you want a cleaned out hog skull?

Have we all been missing out on something?


44 posted on 11/04/2018 4:49:14 AM PST by odawg
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“100 Yards to the Outhouse” by Willie Makit and Betty Wont.

“Under the Bleachers” by Seymour Butts

“Yellow River” by I.P. Freely

“At the Nudist Colony” by I.C. Weiner

“Bon Voyage” by Wen Away

“Unemployed” by Ike Witt

“No Great Shakes” by C. Jure


45 posted on 11/04/2018 5:52:13 AM PST by null and void (Leftards don't know what 8000 illegal aliens marching thru Mexico know - America is a Great country!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Why do ducks have flat feet?

From stamping out forest fires.

Why do elephants have flat feet?

From stamping out flaming ducks.


46 posted on 11/04/2018 6:02:52 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

A couple more

I’m Ready by Hugh G. Rection
If It Smells of Cologne Leave It Alone by
Herb Eaversmells
I’ll Show You Mine if You Show Me Yours
by Mike Hunt & Jenny Taylor

The words of wisdom were prefaced by
“Confucius say., “
“Man who go to bed with itchy (butt) wake up
with smelly fingers”...etc.


47 posted on 11/04/2018 6:42:08 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Phil DiBasquette

You’re puttin’ me on.


48 posted on 11/04/2018 6:43:36 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: odawg
A large feral hog skull with long cutters can be decorative for one's cabin, garage or man cave.

Painted metallic silver adds appeal.

49 posted on 11/04/2018 8:07:16 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Is your refrigerator running?
Well, you better go catch it!


50 posted on 11/04/2018 8:12:15 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Well, I can see that, but why not just get a large pot and boil it for a few hours.

You probably have to do that anyway when the coyotes are finished with it.

Of course, were you to do that in the kitchen, you wife would probably be looked upon favorably in a divorce court settlement.


51 posted on 11/04/2018 8:12:17 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

The yotes clean it thoroughly. A final bleaching may be in order if to be placed indoors.


52 posted on 11/04/2018 8:24:37 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Caller ID ruined prank calling for this generation.


53 posted on 11/04/2018 8:31:48 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ZULU
Aw, that's sad. Keep hate alive.

54 posted on 11/04/2018 9:37:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Phil DiBasquette
Based on what? Nothing? Thought so.

55 posted on 11/04/2018 9:41:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

???

Just putting things in perspective.

When i first read this, i thought that was a pretty aweful fate for a guy who did so much to benefit England.

Then i checked his biography and found out he was involved in chopping up 600 soldiers fighting for Irish independence
after they surrendered on condition of being spared.

That was a big deal, even then. As a matter of fact, it was brought up at his trial.

You have to judge people by the standards of their day not by contemporary morality, which i always make an effort to do.

His fate was poetic justice.

Has nothing to do with “ keeping hate alive”. No Englishmen today is responsible for what Raleigh did and most Englishmen of that day were not either.

There were acceptable conventions of warfare and what he did violated them.


56 posted on 11/04/2018 10:10:41 AM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: P.O.E.

Beatles Lyrics “I’m So Tired”


57 posted on 11/04/2018 10:41:10 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: SunkenCiv

See response to 57


58 posted on 11/04/2018 10:42:19 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Rebelbase

Now they speak like Apu and claim to be from the IRS or Microsoft and ask for control of your laptop or credit card #


59 posted on 11/04/2018 10:44:04 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Phil DiBasquette

Heh, nice, stumped me. That line would work in Puff the Magic Dragon, too. [/jk]


60 posted on 11/04/2018 10:59:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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