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The Speyer Wine Bottle: the oldest unopened bottle of wine in the world
The Vintage News ^ | November 23, 2016 | Brad Smithfield

Posted on 09/06/2018 10:56:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The age of the Speyer wine bottle is epic, estimated at around 1,650 years. Its makers did well by sealing it with hot wax and splashing it with olive oil, which is how the bottle, containing a presumably once drinkable white wine, has maintained the liquid inside it... Microbiologists have recommended not opening the wine and the same opinion was shared by the museum's wine department curator, Ludger Tekampe, who in the past stated that if the bottle were to be opened, "We are not sure whether or not it could stand the shock of the air." ..finding the Speyer Wine in the grave of a Roman noble in 1867, in the Rhineland-Palatine region of Germany... The antique bottle took its name from the city of Speyer, which was located in close proximity to the tomb it was found in. The nobleman, along with his wife, had been buried there with the wine around 350 AD, and archaeologists were utterly baffled when they realized the bottle still contained liquid. To date, the wine is considered the earliest known liquid wine ever excavated from an archaeological site anywhere in the world... the identity of the nobleman... suggests that he was a Roman Legionnaire... A chemist analyzed the Speyer bottle during World War I, but he did not dare to open it and after that, the wine was stored in the German museum in Speyer. While many scientists have hoped to obtain permission to analyze the bottle's contents thoroughly, nobody has been granted one yet.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: dietandcuisine; germany; godsgravesglyphs; oenology; romanempire; speyer; zymurgy
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To: SunkenCiv

Several times during my lifetime, bottles of wine with some great age on them have been opened with a lot of publicity and hoopla. To my knowledge, not one was drinkable.


81 posted on 09/07/2018 8:50:58 AM PDT by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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To: wildbill
In one of the links above, maybe the source story, there's a woeful tale of a bottle of wine valued at $100s of $1000s, and the would-be seller accidentally knocked it over onto the floor. Gone. Another problem that started to get larger during the uptick in baby boomer wine collecting was fakes.

OTOH, the head of the Rothschild family recounted (on 60 minutes, maybe?) how he'd been dining, in Scotland of all places, and ordered the house wine, and one sip, it was the best wine he'd ever tasted. What is this wine? Just our house wine. It was a 200 or so year old Rothschild, apparently this was a posh place.

82 posted on 09/07/2018 9:14:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

My vote is not to open it. It’s a remarkable artifact and we already know quite a lot about ancient winemaking techniques.


83 posted on 09/07/2018 11:18:50 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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My vote is not to open it.

Unless someone can demonstrate significant potential value in opening it.

84 posted on 09/07/2018 11:20:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SunkenCiv

I worked for a wine importer in NYC during my college years. They bought a recently discovered wine cellar that had four or five stories going down into the bedrock of the island not too far from Columbus Circle. The temperature was constant year around. The company used it for a warehouse for their wine and liquors.

Apparently the original owners had also been smugglers because there was also a tunnel that went down to the Hudson river. Anyway at the very bottom story where you had to climb down a ladder several large bottles of port ??? were found all covered with dust from the centuries. I dont know if they ever sold them or opened them.


85 posted on 09/07/2018 3:28:39 PM PDT by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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To: wildbill
Old port, interesting; there was a lot of Portuguese maritime activity in the upper eastern seaboard after the disaster at the Battle of Alcacer Quibir; a Canadian folksinger (either the late Stan Rogers, or Garnet Rogers, his brother) if memory serves mentioned that the town where they grew up was founded in that time frame (1578 or sometime not long thereafter) by Portuguese shipwreck survivors. After Portugal lost the flower of its nobility at that battle, Spain subsumed both Portugal itself and its overseas possessions into the ruling dynasty's possessions. Portuguese ships and sailors who didn't care to live under Spanish rule stayed out of Spanish territory, and made like wild geese into other parts of the world. That wasn't always easy -- those Kings of Spain were, for a few generations, rulers of more of the world's surface than anyone in history.

86 posted on 09/07/2018 11:02:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: colorado tanker; 1Old Pro
Maybe the opening of the bottle can be integrated into the next National Treasure sequel. ;^)

87 posted on 09/07/2018 11:03:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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