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America’s Next Civil War Will Be Worse Than Our Last
The American Spectator ^ | 07/26/18 | H. W. Crocker III

Posted on 07/26/2018 7:41:23 AM PDT by Enlightened1

In the summer of 1862, just weeks before the Battle of Sharpsburg (or Antietam) — the bloodiest single day of fighting in American history — Union Captain George Armstrong Custer attended the wedding of Confederate Captain John “Gimlet” Lea at Bassett Hall in Williamsburg, Virginia, as best man. The Union officer was dressed in blue, the Confederate officer in grey, and Custer being Custer spent the next two weeks flirting with the Southern belle cousin of the bride, even joining her in singing “Dixie.”

At one point she told him, “You ought to be in our army.”

“What would you give me if I resigned my commission in the Northern army and joined the Southern?”

“You are not in earnest, are you?”

 

He wasn’t, of course. Custer was nothing if not loyal, and he believed that he was bound to the Union by the oath he had sworn at West Point, whatever his affection for Southern officers and their ladies.

Such gallantry seems unthinkable today, when members of the Trump administration are hounded from restaurants and theatres, and Confederate officers like John Lea, if they are remembered at all, are considered precursors of the German National Socialists, and their once famous and respected commanders like Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Jeb Stuart have their statues toppled and banished from public squares, their names stripped from public schools, and their memories spat upon and disgraced.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: america; civilwar; cw2; left; tas; trump
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To: Enlightened1

Yes

It could be the worst cataclysm faced by the world so far

Or not


61 posted on 07/26/2018 9:23:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: Enlightened1

bkmk


62 posted on 07/26/2018 9:25:28 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: central_va

No most don’t


63 posted on 07/26/2018 9:25:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: cld51860

A lot of people in 1860 thought a civil war was inevitable.


64 posted on 07/26/2018 9:33:10 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BDParrish
This is another point about our side, we do not rise up to defend others, (well yes a few do here and there,) we look out for number one. Consider just one example: when one of our side is arrested on something like say a gun charge in a liberal city, our side immediately castigates him as a fool and proudly states the resolution to never go to such a place.

Yes, we are often a bunch of backstabbing fools. I see it in political races all the time where "our" people join with the Democrats in destroying one of our candidates.

65 posted on 07/26/2018 9:35:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va
Bunk. Tell me if their is general collapse and rioting and anarchy on the east and left coasts what happens in Nebraska during all of this?

Deer Hunting if it is in November. Its open season and no bag limit on Zombies the rest of the year.

66 posted on 07/26/2018 9:36:09 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: crz

Shhhhhh! Don’t tell them!


67 posted on 07/26/2018 9:36:43 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va

I am not so sure.
More importantly, LTC Thomas Kratman is not so sure. These are some articles on what a US Civil War would be like:

http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/01/12/politics/breakup-of-united-states-terrible-idea/#1
http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/01/26/politics/breakup-of-united-states-political-alignments/


68 posted on 07/26/2018 9:48:06 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray

^^This.^^ Palestinians flying home made kites with road flares attached into your crops. Ferals of all color trying to disrupt society on a 9-11 scale. Liberal children throwing rocks at police, baiting them into ambush. I dont wanna see it happen but encourage them to get their $hit together and launch while Trump is in office. Without Trump in Washington there simply wont be anyone there left to hate.


69 posted on 07/26/2018 9:49:32 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: central_va

Omaha will go up in flames.

Of course, the rest of the state may be holding the matches.

But the infrastructure will fail first. Take down electricity for the wells, and many places become untenable. Take out the supply lines for food, and cities fall.

And I am not a anarchist. Just someone who has studied enough logistics to know that a regional spat would not just be isolated to the coasts. Just in time, grid integration, and heck shipping water and power to CA sets us up for some rather interesting times.


70 posted on 07/26/2018 9:51:52 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Little Ray

Kratman knows his stuff.

Talked with the man a few times. Writes good fiction too.


71 posted on 07/26/2018 9:53:08 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: ealgeone; DiogenesLamp
I would not underestimate the Left on this issue. History shows they will be ruthless in their goal. They do not play by our rules nor have our morality.

Ruthless, maybe. But once the Normals decide it's on, it's on.

If many people on the right reached out and "touched someone," it would be over within 24 hours. Millions gone, overwhelmingly from the leech class.

I'm not proposing that, of course, just speculating.

72 posted on 07/26/2018 9:53:21 AM PDT by gogeo (No justice, no peace.)
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To: Delta 21

Excellent


73 posted on 07/26/2018 9:54:33 AM PDT by gogeo (No justice, no peace.)
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To: redgolum

Did you go to LibertyCon this year?
He always puts on good panels.


74 posted on 07/26/2018 9:59:59 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: fireman15
Your argument might be relevant to timing, line ups, likelihood of success between alternative forces and/or issues, etc.. It does not relate to whether the present animosity will continue to escalate.

Incidentally, birthrate predictions, as most demographic predictions of future trends, almost never prove accurate. Reality can turn on a dime as it were.

75 posted on 07/26/2018 10:02:35 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: gogeo
If many people on the right reached out and "touched someone," it would be over within 24 hours. Millions gone, overwhelmingly from the leech class.

Same was said about the CW 1, WWI, WWII.

CW 2 will last a lot longer than 24 hours.

But I understand the sentiment.

76 posted on 07/26/2018 10:04:07 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: FLT-bird
Correct. I and others call it the War for Southern Independence for a reason

Harrumph! You DO mean: THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION don't you!?

77 posted on 07/26/2018 10:07:44 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: fireman15
Good observations.

I wonder if any other country in history has so voluntarily changed its demographic alignment?

78 posted on 07/26/2018 10:11:31 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: central_va; Vermont Lt

You guys forget the immediate precursor to civil war: settling of scores. It’ll be yuge....


79 posted on 07/26/2018 10:12:46 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: BDParrish
My simple contention is that our side WILL NOT fight outside of legitimate constituted authority.

I think you're comparing apples and pineapples. The so-called authorities in 1776 were considered by the "legitimate" authority, the King, to be traitors to the Crown and criminals.

During the Civil War the legitimacy of the Confederacy came from the consent of the governed.

Both were wars of independence. The next Civil War, if any, will be to maintain the lawful government against a coup, an internal insurrection, a revolt against the Rule of Law, against anarchy.

The current government is the lawful authority. We delegate authority; in a sense, we are the lawful authority.

80 posted on 07/26/2018 10:13:42 AM PDT by gogeo (No justice, no peace.)
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