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First dogs in the Americas arrived from Siberia, disappeared after European contact
ScienceDaily ^ | July 5, 2018 | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Posted on 07/15/2018 12:57:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

By comparing genomic signatures from 71 mitochondrial and seven nuclear genomes of ancient North American and Siberian dogs spanning a period of 9,000 years, the research team was able to gain a clearer picture of the history of the first canine inhabitants of the Americas. The oldest dog remains in the Americas date to about 9,000 years ago... These dogs persisted for thousands of years in the Americas, but almost completely vanished after European contact, the researchers found... The team also discovered that the genomic signature of a transmissible cancer that afflicts dogs appears to be one of the last "living" remnants of the genetic heritage of dogs that populated the Americas prior to European contact. "This suggests that this tumor originated in or near the Americas," Witt said.

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To: SunkenCiv
You say that because you’re a troll.

Okay; let me get this straight. I disagree with the premise of this so-called study so that makes me a troll in your eyes.

Well, if we're gonna start slinging names at each other (you started it), then you're a low life POS from the very bottom of the dregs barrel with no sense of honor or decency whatsoever. That means your opinion means absolutely nothing to me so go pound sand over at DU and stay in the swamp where you belong.

41 posted on 07/15/2018 5:00:49 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: SunkenCiv

90% of the Native American people died off, largely due to epidemics after European contact, the same could have happened to dogs.

Old breeds that were here before Columbus are still around, like Chihuahuas and Mexican Hairless dogs.


42 posted on 07/15/2018 5:36:40 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Boomer

No, you’re just a troll.


43 posted on 07/15/2018 5:42:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ignore post/poster that you don’t agree with and stick
to you thoughts on what you believe to be true.


44 posted on 07/15/2018 6:13:29 PM PDT by deport
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To: SunkenCiv
No, you’re just a troll.

Look, it's obvious you're mentally impaired, not sure if you were dropped on your head too many times as a baby or just born that way but YOU are TROLLING me.

It's not nice or honorable to pick on mentally disabled people so I'm just going to remember you for your mental defect and do my best to forget you ever existed at the same time.

45 posted on 07/15/2018 6:25:35 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: SunkenCiv

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Your inability to post anything factual, nor grasp how absurd everything you post is makes you as relevent as Hitlery.
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46 posted on 07/15/2018 6:40:10 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Boomer

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Anyone who disagrees with sunken skull automatically becomes a troll.

Logical,huh?


47 posted on 07/15/2018 6:42:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ahhh... so he/she was dropped on its head as a baby. Hard.


48 posted on 07/15/2018 10:48:47 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Boomer; SunkenCiv
How can a fact be "leftist fur balls"?

Did you read the article? The majority of native Americans from the point of contact until the late 1600s died of diseases brought around from the Old World. This would be true for dogs as well.

It's got nothing to do with "white men" - the Europeans are just the western peninsula of Eurasia and have been germ-wise in contact with germs from as far away as China ever since the Mongol Empire

49 posted on 07/16/2018 6:00:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: editor-surveyor
What are you talking about? how is this article in any way bu!!$hit?

Teh last paragraph detracts from teh piece as it is conjecture and based on false premises ("forced genocide" - which could only be labelled for the Indian wars), but the rest of it is hard facts

50 posted on 07/16/2018 6:04:04 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos
Wholeheartedly agree.

51 posted on 07/16/2018 6:24:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Cronos

So these germs were just random and fell all over the place or did the dogs eat something the Europeans left behind and what about the fact dogs are generally immune to human germs?

I dunno. Something doesn’t sound right to me. Contrived. A study without the right results and not backed up with method.

I could have left out the “leftist” part of the “leftist fur balls” comment but I like to poke them every chance I get. Plus it was a play on the dog article with a cat reference. I shouldn’t have to explain all this but one never knows these days and it isn’t uncommon for some people to read something entirely different than was intended by the writer.

Okay, I just did a search on this subject, and it does look like other sites and studies support the replacement of indigenous dogs with the European variety. I still don’t get how this happened; only that it happened - probably over a long period of time.


52 posted on 07/16/2018 6:32:13 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Cronos

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>> “how is this article in any way bu!!$hit?” <<

No hard facts, totally conjecture.

The universe did not exist 9000 years ago, for starters.
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53 posted on 07/16/2018 8:17:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SunkenCiv

What does this have to do with anything?


54 posted on 07/16/2018 10:21:43 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: enumerated
Your post? It has nothing to do with anything besides wasting others' bandwidth.

55 posted on 07/16/2018 12:45:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Boomer
The germs just fell over the place :)

Take the example of what happened to the native Americans in what is now the USA.

In the 1500s, Europeans hadn't penetrated this area and when they did they found empty lands or abandoned places. The germs went ahead of them -- when the Spaniards landed in the late 1400s in Mexico, their contact with the natives spread disease. Then due to trade, war etc. the germs rapidly spread north

That was why 90% of native Americans died by germs and the vast majority without even SEEING a European

I would say that the same happened to the dogs

These aren't about dogs getting human germs but dogs possibly picking up a disease brought along by European dogs

The FACT is that the indigenous dogs died out and the Eurasian varieties "replaced" them

The most likely answers are

  1. that they died of diseases brought along by the Spanish Fidos :)
  2. They were heavily dependent on their owners and when the owners died, they died out too - outcompeted as feral dogs by wolves or Euro dogs
- Europeans didn't eat dog meat mostly and they would not kill a dog on sight.
56 posted on 07/16/2018 11:15:28 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Now that makes more sense.


57 posted on 07/16/2018 11:18:32 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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