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Advice for clearing wooded property
My noggin ^ | 18 June 2018 | Rarest Iowa

Posted on 06/18/2018 7:33:15 AM PDT by rarestia

Calling all farmers, land owners, and gardeners... yours truly recently took ownership of 4 acres of property in central Florida and has some questions. I'm far from a greenhorn, but I'm learning new things and don't know what I don't know. Please bear with me and correct any misuse of terms herein.

Approximately 3 acres of my land is heavily wooded and was poorly maintained. My last 2 weekends were spent with a rented brush hog clearing the front acre of my property of undergrowth. Vines were everywhere, some as thick as 2 inches (diameter), and it made for very slow going. There were numerous dead logs and some dead trees are still standing. The rest was poison ivy, overgrown deliberately-planted bushes such as oak leaf hydrangea, and oak saplings.

After clearing, I'm left with a lot of thatch, leaf litter, and branches to clear, but I have my sights set on the future. What are my next steps? I could walk the acre and manually pick up the big stuff. I'll either burn, chip, or save felled lumber. How can I make the grounds arable for turf? Should drop a broadleaf herbicide to tame the weeds? Should I rent a power rake or a dethatcher? Finally, should I aerate and then overseed with bahia or rye?

My goal is to have the natural large trees remain intact with appropriate pruning for shade, some winding mulch pathways, and either turf or natural ground cover such as fern, vervain, or juniper filling in the space where a lot of the weeds and brush were previously. I understand this is going to be a very lengthy process, but with the proper machinery and patience, I believe it's all very possible.

My thanks to any and all FReepers who might be able to help.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: forest; forestry
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To: rarestia
Add forest fires and landslides and you just described California.
Yes, being a good steward of the earth includes doing what you're doing.
Good luck and don't take any unnecessary risks.

21 posted on 06/18/2018 7:49:03 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: KC Burke

“... Is there any ravine area needing fill?...”

He is in Florida...The deepest “ravine” in Florida might be 5 feet deep...


22 posted on 06/18/2018 7:49:33 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: rarestia

Goats are plant eating machines. 5 goats will clear every single plant from your 4 acres from about 5 feet high to the dirt, and turn it into fertilizer at the same time.

Thew are really easy to take care of, fun and useful.

...............


23 posted on 06/18/2018 7:50:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (When Obama and VJ go to prison for treason, will Roseanne get her show back?...)
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To: Red Badger

We tried Goats. Problem was we needed good fencing. The rope/cable thing was a challenge because they just got tangled up. The weedeater and CHEAP plant killer was just way too convenient.

Plus, I love working in the woods, clearing brush and making paths. It’s a hobby.


24 posted on 06/18/2018 7:50:52 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: rarestia

Are you sure that the poison ivy is in fact poison ivy?

Moast people mistake ‘Virginia Creeper’(harmless) for poison ivy.


25 posted on 06/18/2018 7:51:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (When Obama and VJ go to prison for treason, will Roseanne get her show back?...)
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To: rarestia

It’s probably too late now but anytime you want to clear underbrush, vines, and small trees hire one of these guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgKjMxHTek


26 posted on 06/18/2018 7:51:41 AM PDT by kempo
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To: rarestia

Leave a couple dead trees for the woodpeckers and other small birds like titmice that need nesting cavities so they’ll stick around to eat bugs.

Make sure you don’t brush hog until you know what you’ve got- a lot of grow-over FL land has beautiful azaleas on it that could b mistaken for just “brush” when not in bloom, and there might be blueberry bushes, ground orhids, etc., in there too.


27 posted on 06/18/2018 7:51:45 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: KC Burke

Right.
Where I live, one week there is a dense forest, the next it is all cleared and a month later houses are going up.


28 posted on 06/18/2018 7:53:11 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: alternatives?

I love trees, but there are areas where the sapplings are everywhere, often huge clumps with the trees spread less than a foot apart. I like to clear and leave a minimum of six feet between them. I also like diversity, so I’ll leave some slow growers like Oak and Maple near the faster growers.


29 posted on 06/18/2018 7:53:12 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: bgill

If he has trouble finding some, all he needs is ask at his local mosque...............


30 posted on 06/18/2018 7:53:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (When Obama and VJ go to prison for treason, will Roseanne get her show back?...)
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To: Red Badger

Seconded. They are ravenous. Poison Ivy is a snack to them.

Don’t name them or get attached because when they are done send them to slaughter and have them butchered:

https://www.google.com/search?q=goat+curry


31 posted on 06/18/2018 7:53:46 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (TRUMP TRAIN !!! Get the hell out of the way if you are not on yet because we don't stop for idiots)
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To: AppyPappy

Post of the day! (especially the sharpie part).


32 posted on 06/18/2018 7:54:27 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: rarestia

You’re probably going to have to address moles since it’s been wooded. Moles and lawns are not a happy combo for the landowner....

I use chickens to clear undergrowth here and till everything up....but I’m lazy and have the time. They eat moles too...


33 posted on 06/18/2018 7:54:29 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: freedomlover

Unless you want to be grubbing for years, get a dozer to come in and do the work. Have him push the debris into burn piles if you are allowed to burn. If not, push them off to an area out of the way and make a backstop for your shooting range.


34 posted on 06/18/2018 7:54:45 AM PDT by damper99
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To: rarestia

Buy either a std tractor or upscale lawn tractor w dump trailer. Also get a decent chainsaw, Honda 2200 generator, extension cord, and alligator looper. It eats through light brush and up to 4” diameter limbs. I like the Ryobi electric pruner with extension pole.

4 acres is a lot to handle. Power equipment is a necessity.


35 posted on 06/18/2018 7:55:18 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Gals.)
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To: rarestia
Are you intending on clearing the remaining 3 acres as well?

If so, then your best bet is to hire someone with a bulldozer. If you can burn they will put the debris in a pile for you to burn. A little more expensive but the results are much quicker.

If you are only interested in finishing off just the 1 acre then I suggest someone that has a combination backhoe and front end loader. Then they can even clear out some of the underbrush between the trees you plan to leave up.

36 posted on 06/18/2018 7:55:25 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: robroys woman

The smaller ones usually end up dying anyway.


37 posted on 06/18/2018 7:55:30 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: rarestia

Just be watchful for the vines that slither...Florida, yuk.


38 posted on 06/18/2018 7:56:13 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

There are some goat farms that ‘rent’ them out.................


39 posted on 06/18/2018 7:56:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (When Obama and VJ go to prison for treason, will Roseanne get her show back?...)
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To: damper99
Unless you want to be grubbing for years, get a dozer to come in and do the work. Have him push the debris into burn piles if you are allowed to burn. If not, push them off to an area out of the way and make a backstop for your shooting range.

Best advice yet.

40 posted on 06/18/2018 7:56:38 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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