Thanks Fred Nerks!
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Posted on 06/14/2018 12:22:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Fossilized hand and footprints have revealed that mankind lived on the Tibetan plateau at the height of the Ice Age -- 16,000 years earlier than anyone previously thought. The 19 fossilized signs of life have also cast doubt on the theory that the plateau was fully covered by a glacier one kilometer thick at that time. The 20,000 year-old prints, 85 kilometers (53 miles) from Lhasa, predates any archaeological evidence on the plateau and suggests that man may have migrated to the "roof of the world" extremely early on. At the arid and frigid site, 4,200 meters above sea level, scientists found the marks of at least six individuals, of which two were children, including a well-structured stove... Since the height of the last Ice Age was between 24,000 and 18,000 years ago, the evidence, which shocked Zhang, shows that early man could adapt to this extreme environment. The findings, published in both the journal Nature and an American geophysical journal, are also a nail in the coffin for the ice-covered plateau hypothesis. The theory indicates that the 4,000-meter high Tibetan plateau was completely covered in ice, thicker than the present Greenland ice sheet, even during the last Ice Age. Yet the findings clearly indicate that the plateau was partially ice-free, and that man was able to survive there, albeit around hot springs where the climate was more equitable. Until this discovery, the oldest known settlements were from the Late Neolithic Age, around 4,000 years ago, which led scientists to believe that Tibetans migrated onto the high-plateau around this time.
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It also blows the **** out of the nonsense gradualist models for the glaciations. It's not the first time this type of thing has happened, and it probably won't be the last.
Thanks Fred Nerks!
Includes a ‘well structured stove’?
If it was on a glacier, a kilometer thick, what would they have used as fuel?
Nobody would choose to live on a glacier where there is no food to be found.
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Even today, It’s amazing to me that people can live in the Tibetan plateau, let alone devise a very complex version of Buddhism. 40 day growing season. Live on barley beer laced with yak butter (plus yak meat). What drove people to such an almost uninhabitable place? Or, for that matter, to find tiny islands in a giant Pacific Ocean? Being driven to the margins by other people, I’d guess.
He was a Russian, named Ivan Frozmyassov!
Mankind is so arrogant, they seem to think nothing can happen unless given permission by scientists at a certain period, but those who populated this earth before the scientists arrived seem to have done just fine.
Thanks, SC!
‘Face
And *yet, I* see where yuo’re going with that...
OH NO!!!!!!
Global warming has become so bad it is even melting kilometer thick glaciers in the distant past!!!!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029162/
Lost Horizon
Most excellent movie, although I would not mind a suitable remake.
DOH!
Nevermind.......
INNSBRUCK, AUSTRIA—Live Science reports that a team of researchers led by geologist Michael Meyer of the University of Innsbruck obtained new dates for hand and footprints left in the mud of a hot spring at the high-altitude Chusang site in Tibet. The 19 prints were discovered in 1998, and initial studies suggested they were left some 20,000 years ago. Meyer and his colleagues used uranium-thorium dating to date the sediments, optically stimulated luminescence to date quartz crystals in the layer containing the prints, and radiocarbon dating of microscopic plant remains. The new tests suggest that the prints were made between 7,400 and 12,600 years ago—...
12,600-Year-Old Handprints Show Humans Lived in The Himalayas Much Earlier Than Thought
Our ancestors were intrepid.
LINDSAY DODGSON, BUSINESS INSIDER
12 JAN 2017
www.sciencelart.com
Seems to me that people would have been in that AO prior to and during the ice pile-up, not migrate there after or during.
Why would anyone go up into the mountains and high places *during* an ice age?
But, if people were already established in that area during the better climate, then survived the climate change in place, makes a whole lot more sense to me.
a 20,000 yr old engineered stove? which could mean, more than a few animals for manure patties to burn (goats/sheep?) and/or adequate woody vegetation for charcoal/grazing.
http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/peopling-tibet-chusang-04514.html
“Among some of the best preserved sites for scientists to study is the Chusang site, which is located on the central plateau 50 miles (80 km) northwest of Lhasa at an elevation of 14,000 feet (4,270 m), near Chusang, a village known for its hydrothermal springs and extensive travertine formations.”
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Hydrothermal springs might provide a clue...that valley may well have been ice free.
A last refuge for the survivors to fall back to as the ice piled up around them, is my guess.
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