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Dogs lived and died with humans 10,000 years ago in the Americas
Science News ^ | April 16, 2018 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 04/17/2018 5:40:02 AM PDT by C19fan

A trio of dogs buried at two ancient human sites in Illinois lived around 10,000 years ago, making them the oldest known domesticated canines in the Americas.

Radiocarbon dating of the dogs’ bones shows they were 1,500 years older than thought, zooarchaeologist Angela Perri said April 13 at the annual meeting of the Society for American Archaeology. The previous age estimate was based on a radiocarbon analysis of burned wood found in one of the animals’ graves. Until now, nearly 9,300-year-old remains of dogs eaten by humans at a Texas site were the oldest physical evidence of American canines.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: agriculture; angelaperri; animalhusbandry; dogs; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; illinois; radiocarbondating; texas; zooarchaeology
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1 posted on 04/17/2018 5:40:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan
They're still here:

The Dixie Dingo

Carolina Dog


2 posted on 04/17/2018 5:46:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: C19fan
Until now, nearly 9,300-year-old remains of dogs eaten by humans at a Texas site were the oldest physical evidence of American canines.

Maybe the "First Americans" came from Korea, not Siberia?

3 posted on 04/17/2018 5:49:02 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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I think nearly all cultures ate dogs as a last option. Some of the Koreans/Chinese/Vietnamese eat dogs as according to chinese medicine it has some medicinal properties


4 posted on 04/17/2018 5:54:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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5 posted on 04/17/2018 5:57:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: Cowboy Bob

They didn’t have cows, horses, goats, sheep or chickens. Kind of makes me wonder what the Aztecs put in their tacos in those big cities they had.


6 posted on 04/17/2018 5:57:23 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: C19fan

Dogs lived with humans 10,000 years ago!!

That’s a newsflash?


7 posted on 04/17/2018 6:00:47 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Darteaus94025

In the Americias


8 posted on 04/17/2018 6:08:49 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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Were Native Americans especially slow?


9 posted on 04/17/2018 6:11:07 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: C19fan

Humans don’t bury their food. It’s easy to determine if an animal was revered or eaten.


10 posted on 04/17/2018 6:13:22 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: blam

I’ve got one of those. Best dog I’ve ever owned.


11 posted on 04/17/2018 6:18:14 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: fella
"Kind of makes me wonder what the Aztecs put in their tacos in those big cities they had."

You had to ask...


12 posted on 04/17/2018 6:18:28 AM PDT by moovova
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"Kind of makes me wonder what the Aztecs put in their tacos in those big cities they had."

Cannibals And Kings

Marvin Harris says all the sacrificial killing was about providing protein. There was a whole industry of butchering and distributing the human bodies after they were thrown down from the altar.

13 posted on 04/17/2018 6:27:31 AM PDT by blam
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To: Cronos
"I think nearly all cultures ate dogs as a last option."

Right you are. No culture or people has a corner on feasting on Fido:

Europeans Survived on a diet of dogs and badgers 3000 years ago

14 posted on 04/17/2018 7:23:57 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Darteaus94025

Science was slow to prove how long ago domesticated dogs were in the Americas.


15 posted on 04/17/2018 7:27:32 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: blam

Well, I’ll take my European Boxer breed, Thank You. Still cool to know we have an indigenous dog from thousands of years ago right in my stomping grounds.


16 posted on 04/17/2018 8:19:06 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Unassuaged

American scientists are slow too?


17 posted on 04/17/2018 8:20:24 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: C19fan
Another FR article about dogs:

A Carolina Dog (The Dixie Dingo)

Lots of Dixie Dingo pictures on that thread.

18 posted on 04/17/2018 8:34:57 AM PDT by blam
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So they didn’t throw those sacrificed into ditches like in that movie?


19 posted on 04/17/2018 10:01:22 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: blam; fella

“Marvin Harris says all the sacrificial killing was about providing protein.”

I remember the wholesale sacrificial slaughter (from WAY back in my college history classes), but don’t remember anything being mentioned about cannibalism. It makes sense though in a blood-lust culture like that. I’m betting that aspect was left out in my college texts...or, maybe just not known when I attended college (just after the Renaissance).

I’ll look for Cannibals and Kings at the library. Thanks.


20 posted on 04/17/2018 10:47:44 AM PDT by moovova
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