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Oldest DNA from Africa Offers Clues to Mysterious Ancient Culture
Science ^ | March 15, 2018 | Ann Gibbons

Posted on 03/20/2018 5:30:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

About 15,000 years ago, in the oldest known cemetery in the world, people buried their dead in sitting positions with beads and animal horns, deep in a cave in what is now Morocco. These people were also found with small, sophisticated stone arrowheads and points, and 20th century archaeologists assumed they were part of an advanced European culture that had migrated across the Mediterranean Sea to North Africa. But now, their ancient DNA -- the oldest ever obtained from Africans -- shows that these people had no European ancestry. Instead, they were related to both Middle Easterners and sub-Saharan Africans, suggesting that more people were migrating in and out of North Africa than previously believed...

DNA in hand, Van de Loosdrecht and Choongwon Jeong, also of the SHH, were able to analyze genetic material from the cell's nucleus in five people and the maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA from seven people. But they found no genetic tie to ancient Europeans. Instead, the ancient Iberomaurusians appear to be related to Middle Easterners and other Africans: They shared about two-thirds of their genetic ancestry with Natufians, hunter-gatherers who lived in the Middle East 14,500 to 11,000 years ago, and one-third with sub-Saharan Africans who were most closely related to today's West Africans and the Hadza of Tanzania.

The Iberomaurusians lived before the Natufians, but they were not their direct ancestors...

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencemag.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; emptydna; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; iberomaurusians; morocco; mtdna; natufians; navigation
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To: Cronos
"The black and white dichtomy is daft, the Romans only cared if you were a citizen or not."

I've read reports that first the Greeks and later the Romans made trips to the Canary Islands to obtain slaves there because the had a Nordic appearance, tall, blonde and White and they were the preferred sex slave.

21 posted on 03/21/2018 10:25:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam; Cronos

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The Canary islands were the only place where real Portugese existed after the muzzie mauraders over-ran southern Europe.
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22 posted on 03/21/2018 10:31:14 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ragnar Danneskjöld

No, nothing like that at all.


23 posted on 03/21/2018 2:05:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: gaijin
:^) I was just thinking about how the Roman ethnicity was already well on the way out by the time of the Pompeian War and the end of the so-called Roman Republic. To be Roman was to have Roman citizenship, and as the citizenship was expanded to include all areas under Roman rule, the influence of Roman culture -- whoops, I mean, the cultural appropriation by non-Romans of Roman customs, lifestyle, and trappings -- was ubiquitous. This has happened before, this time I was on the hopper.

24 posted on 03/21/2018 2:42:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Honest Nigerian

25 posted on 03/21/2018 2:51:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Inyo-Mono; Simon Green
In Spain, Neandertals were performing complex burials at least 38,000 years ago, or (mind-bogglingly enough) 23,000 years before these Moroccan burials..

26 posted on 03/21/2018 2:57:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: gaijin; Honest Nigerian; SunkenCiv; blam; All

I had not heard that Mozart might be part Negro, however I had heard the Beethoven was. Links below regarding the true “black Mozart” who was not the Mozart we know as most famous. Also a link on many notables of mixed blood including an ancestor of Queen Victoria and thus of half of Europe’s royalty.

https://curiosity.com/topics/joseph-boulogne-was-the-black-mozart-before-mozart-was-alive-curiosity/

http://kpkollenborn.blogspot.com/2014/12/15-historical-figures-you-didnt-know.html


27 posted on 03/22/2018 12:40:25 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: editor-surveyor
The Canary islands were the only place where real Portugese existed after the muzzie mauraders over-ran southern Europe

What are you talking about? You got so many facts wrong in that sentence it is incredible

  1. the Canary Islands are Spanish, not Portuguese
  2. The Canary Islands had migratns (sailors) from Majorca, CAstile and Portugal only from the 1300s onwards
  3. The Canary islands native population were/are Gaunches who are Berber in origin (related to Moroccans and Algerians) - just as St. Augustine was a Berber
  4. When the Mohammadens conquered iberia, there was no Portugal (no Spain either) just the Visigothic kingdom
  5. The Mohammadens didn't overrun "southern Europe" - they conquered the Iberian peninsula - though indications are that the Arian Visigoths carried out a palace coup with Gnostic Berbers and they were later replaced with Ummayads and at a later point Sicily (which they held for one hundred years) and at various points different parts of the toe and heel of Italy and only centuries later, the Seljuks and Ottomans gained Greece - vast differences in time and at no point did they hold all of Southern Europe

28 posted on 03/22/2018 12:48:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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soon to be a separate topic?

Entomologist confirms first Saharan farming 10,000 years ago
Sat, Mar 17, 2018
http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/winter-2018/article/entomologist-confirms-first-saharan-farming-10-000-years-ago


29 posted on 03/22/2018 12:50:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: gleeaikin

By and large such claims are ill-sourced, at best.

But 100% of the time, they are of no importance, since race doesn’t really exist.


30 posted on 03/22/2018 12:55:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Cronos

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Your comment was way off.

90% of the portugese families in central Calif are descended from immigrants from the canary islands and the azores.

Many call themselves “canaros.”

It doesn’t matter which nation “owns” the territory!


31 posted on 03/22/2018 11:49:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You said The Canary islands were the only place where real Portugese existed after the muzzie mauraders over-ran southern Europe.

That's wrong - the Canary islands are not and never were portuguese and they were populated by Iberian settlers WELL after the Reconquista was in control of much of Iberia (in the 1300s)

Then you change this to talk about California -- may be they are descended from the few Portuguese that lived in the Canary Islands, but going from the ancestry of people in California to making a leap about only true portuguese escaping the 8th century Muslim invasion in the Canary Islands is hilariously wrong.

32 posted on 03/22/2018 11:06:53 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: gleeaikin

“moors” were not black byt Berbers


33 posted on 03/22/2018 11:11:45 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: blam

really? Can you provide me links to that please?


34 posted on 03/23/2018 2:36:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos
"really? Can you provide me links to that please?"

Yes. It's something that I read...but, I cannot prove it.
As I remember, this same article mentioned the desire for light-skinned sex slaves and trips (also) to Northern Europe to obtain them.
(Sorry, all I have to offer is my memory)

35 posted on 03/23/2018 10:35:22 AM PDT by blam
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To: Cronos

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The people frpm those islands self-identify as Portugese (whether you like it or not).


36 posted on 03/23/2018 12:22:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ragnar Danneskjöld

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Leftie propagandists are born shocked.


37 posted on 03/23/2018 12:23:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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"New technological approaches are allowing anthropologists to peer even deeper into the bones of our ancestors," said Quam. "In the case of La Ferrassie 1, these approaches have made it possible to identify new fossil remains and pathological conditions of the original skeleton as well as confirm that this individual was deliberately buried.

The adult male La Ferrassie 1 Neandertal skeleton was found in 1909 in a French cave site, along with the remains of an adult woman and several Neandertal children. All of the skeletons were interpreted as representing intentional burials, and the finds sparked much public interest at the time regarding just how human-like the Neandertals were. The La Ferrassie 1 skeleton, in particular, has been highly influential in Neandertal studies since its discovery.

La Ferrassie 1 was an old man (likely over 50 years old) who suffered various broken bones during his lifetime and had ongoing respiratory issues when he died. Soon after, he was buried by other members of his group in the La Ferrassie rockshelter, which was repeatedly occupied by Neandertals during millennia. The skeleton was found in a burial pit and has been dated to between 40,000 and 54,000 years.


[New technology reveals secrets of famous Neandertal skeleton La Ferrassie 1 | Binghamton University | Public Release: 27-Mar-2018]

38 posted on 03/28/2018 11:09:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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