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FBI told state police not to wear body cameras for 2016 stop of occupation leaders (LaVoy Finicum)
OregonLive ^ | 2/2/2018 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 02/03/2018 5:26:30 AM PST by Nextrush

Prosecutors say witness testimony, audio and video evidence, plus bullet trajectory analysis yielded one conclusion: FBI agent W. Joseph Astarita lied about firing two shots at the truck of refuge occupation spokesman Robert "LaVoy" Finicum in 2016 after he swerved into a snowbank.

The information is detailed in a 32 page government response to Astarita's motion to dismiss the federal indictment against him. He's pleaded not guilty to three counts of obstruction of making false statements and two counts of obstruction of justice. Astarita's lawyer claimed the indictment was based on "junk science".

The government response also reveals that Oregon State Police SWAT troopers at the scene, ordinarily required to wear body cameras, didn't that day at the request of the FBI. The FBI did obtain video from FBI surveillance planes flying above the scene.

State police detectives also normally record interviews of officers who might be involved in a shooting, but they didn't that night when questioning the FBI Hostage Rescue Team members, but they didn't that night when questioning the FBI Hostage Rescue Team members, again at the FBI's request. A follow-up interview with the hostage team members also came with unusual conditions, prosecutors note.

Astarita's first rifle shot missed Finicum's truck entirely and the second entered Finicum's truck from the roof, "sending sparks into the cabin and blowing out the left rear passenger window next to Ryan Bundy," according to federal prosecutors.......

On Feb. 6, 2016, two state police detectives reinterviewed Astarita, but by then the hostage rescue team agents knew there were unaccounted-for gunshots and missing shell casings. The agents set conditions for the interview: They could only be interviewed as a group, the interview couldn't be recorded and their lawyer could be present on a speakerphone........

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To: Nextrush
The stench of the FBI extends well beyond Washington DC, all the way to Oregon.

Appears someone was attempting to shoot him in the back as he exited the vehicle but aimed a little low as the bullet went thru the roof and then the window...

Looking more and more like an American gestapo...

41 posted on 02/03/2018 8:00:12 AM PST by Iscool
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To: marktwain
The FBI policy is not to allow recordings of its agents...

That has to stop. Their notes and "recollections" are not adequate evidence.

42 posted on 02/03/2018 8:17:14 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: vette6387

Well you are right they are not good guys. The average FBI agent will happily carry out any order they are given.

Somebody send me a list of the FBI agents who have resigned in protest over the illegal actions taken by the Bureau in the past 2-3 years. Yeh.


43 posted on 02/03/2018 8:50:07 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Somebody send me a list of the FBI agents who have resigned in protest over the illegal actions taken by the Bureau in the past 2-3 years. Yeh.


It is like the military. Many just left because of the nonsense. There is no list....................


44 posted on 02/03/2018 8:53:08 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Many just left. No they didn’t. Its a career civil service job.


45 posted on 02/03/2018 8:54:56 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Nextrush
and the name of the POS that told them not to is???
46 posted on 02/03/2018 9:08:01 AM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: anton

I understand and agree in re Jewell.

I lost a lot of confidence in the FBI when it was disclosed how J Edgar Hoover had amassed dirt on the politicians and Presidents + others in powerful positions. He then basically used that data to “blackmail” them to keep himself in power. ...The little fairy and his boyfriend lived well.


47 posted on 02/03/2018 10:19:33 AM PST by octex
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To: qaz123

For folks that are in their late 60s-70s or older, this place must seem unrecognizable.
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I’m one of those folks. Was growing up in the ‘40s before TV and listening to the radio programs that often included stories about the police and FBI; always positive stories.

Today’s communication media provide more insight to such agencies than was available back then. ...I’m sure the corruption was just as bad, or worse, in those days as it is today; we just didn’t have the ‘visibility’ then.


48 posted on 02/03/2018 10:52:12 AM PST by octex
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To: blackdog
I do not remember that one.

Can you provide a link?

49 posted on 02/03/2018 10:55:35 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2000-04-08/news/0004080008_1_david-farrall-fbi-wrong-side


50 posted on 02/03/2018 12:13:06 PM PST by blackdog
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To: blackdog
Yikes!

Nasty story.

Thanks

51 posted on 02/03/2018 12:25:25 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Nextrush; ransomnote; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; ...

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52 posted on 02/03/2018 1:15:45 PM PST by bitt (We dont need an electric chair, we need electric bleachers.)
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To: blackdog

I remember that well. Never caught the ending but it took a few years. More FBI than we need.


53 posted on 02/03/2018 1:24:05 PM PST by DrDude
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To: Nextrush

My goodness. That is a chilling story.


54 posted on 02/03/2018 1:42:41 PM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: Nextrush; goodnesswins; PROCON; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

55 posted on 02/03/2018 2:02:51 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Big Red Badger

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3395744/posts

http://truthinmedia.com/video-details-lavoy-finicum-traffic-stop-shooting/


56 posted on 02/03/2018 2:06:42 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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(title) : " FBI told state police not to wear body cameras for 2016 stop of occupation leaders (LaVoy Finicum) "

To me, that signifies intent
Given the recent releases of FBI data yesterday, I believe it demonstrates criminal intent.
If I was there and had been arrested at the scene of a homicide, I want to know who made that order
and charge them with criminal intent to violate civil rights of all those arrested, or held.
The 'Discovery Process' should have included this information.

57 posted on 02/03/2018 2:41:47 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Moonman62

The whole story stinks, stinks, stinks. Trying to justify the FBI in this story isn’t working at the details drip out.

The FBI used willing Oregon police to do much of their dirty work. The Oregon police refused to identify themselves when they pulled the vehicles over.


58 posted on 02/03/2018 5:50:04 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Big Red Badger

That’s the idea, provoke, get agitated, confused to justify the killing......


59 posted on 02/03/2018 5:51:08 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

As one of Lavoy’s supporters put it in a video the other day regarding law enforcement “even the good, Christian ones lie”.....


60 posted on 02/03/2018 5:54:18 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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