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Trial Balloon – Carter and Bongino Discuss Steele Dossier (trunc)(Sundance- Carter being played?)
CTH ^ | 1/13/18 | Sundance

Posted on 01/13/2018 7:44:04 PM PST by Be Careful

Unfortunately, but not unpredictably, Sara Carter begins deploying deep state ‘countermeasures’ from her ‘sources’ that are telling her Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele and Hillary Clintons were hoodwinked by a comprehensive Russian disinformation campaign; carried out by professional Russian intelligence agents; who duped the Clinton Campaign into THINKING Trump was a proxy agent of Russia.

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KEYWORDS: clintoncampaign; crookedhillary; hillaryrussia; saracarter; sundance; trumpdossier
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To: Be Careful

Why the FNC gave her a platform—or coincidence?

The “duped” story line is pathetic, but also maybe showing just how totally trapped they are?


21 posted on 01/14/2018 1:21:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Be Careful

The Russian/Clinton dirty dossier was NOT to get trump ELECTED...it was to DESTROY his chance of election!! Geesh....it’s not complicated!!


22 posted on 01/14/2018 4:52:48 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Be Careful
Hoodwinked, my -ss, there was Brennon and Clapper vouching for the legitimacy of the dossier information from the get go. This sleaze bag document is exactly what it appears to be by any sane measure. It started out as a bought and paid for political smear hit piece made up from whole cloth and when it's objective failed to get Hitlery elected, top U.S. intelligence officials boosted the believability/credibility of the facts in the dossier to get a FISA warrant. It also was used to back justify to the FISA court the prodigious and outrageous past illegal snooping that had already gone on for months with the unmasking of Trump officials by using so called 702(17) queries. I believe these are done without a warrant but presumably by an intelligence agent who has, at least, P/C to do so from a legitimate investigative standpoint. The info is likely names, associates, dates, times and places without actual conversations.
23 posted on 01/14/2018 5:19:51 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Be Careful

Sundance has trashed Sarah Carter several times. Each time, his main complaint is she has better sources than he. But each time he couches it in a smarmy narrative that suggests she is a tool of the swamp. Sundance is jealous that her sources go to her. But he hides it—not very well—behind smears. Pathetic.

Sundance is pretty good at piecing the puzzles together, but he is wrong fairly often. You’d never know it without a good memory for details though. He disappears his incorrect predictions and conclusions. Just one recent example (there are dozens): Just the other day he had a Breathless Big Scoop that only Sundance could figure out: There was never a FISA warrant. The very next day he stated there WAS. Sarah and others had the info and sources. Did SD say “ooops, sorry!” Nope. It just disappeared. And today he smears Sarah.

It’s a pattern on CTH. Dude is not some spy guy brainiac at all. His cheerleader section thinks he’s some brilliant superman headed for a pulitzer and personally in danger but super brave etc.

He also is notorious for disappearing anyone who points out his inaccuracies in the comments section of his board. His board: his right.

He also freely steals others well researched scoops and spins them as his own brilliant conclusions, without attribution. Google, “Who is Sundance” and your eyes might get opened.

Just remember what he posits, and judge for yourself.


24 posted on 01/14/2018 6:06:29 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Wow......so noted. Very cogent and insightful!!!


25 posted on 01/14/2018 6:27:39 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

Thanks. I was debating whether to post or not for awhile on The Wizard Of SD. Worth pulling back the curtain occasionally.

I like his site, and his insights, especially into NAFTA and the chamber of commerce plots to keep it. And lots of others.

But his smarm on Sarah (and Hannity, ect.) sometimes gets too much. Fair’s fair. Goose, meet gander.


26 posted on 01/14/2018 6:43:54 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: FredZarguna

It is her job to report what her sources are telling her. She is just doing her job. One of the very few in the media that is doing her job.

This spin on the Russia Russia Russia narrative will likely fall apart under examination. The most capable woman on Earth, a former SoS got fooled by a Russian disinformation campaign that bought the Russian absolutely nothing? Not buying it.


27 posted on 01/14/2018 7:28:08 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusions. He’s good, but ....


28 posted on 01/14/2018 7:33:17 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Be Careful

SD has a long history of attacking Sara Carter and the great writer & patriot, Daniel Greenfield.

When SD began pimping the “RINO RyanCare”, he outed himself as either someone with a limited intellect or, at best, just another RINO.

SD, the former FLA adult grocery boy, is a fraud as Jeffrey Lord & Mark Levin has duly pointed out by name.


29 posted on 01/14/2018 7:42:33 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

You are 100% correct on SD.

I pointed out his errors incl his enthusiastically supporting RyanCare like a good RINO was just ObamaCareLite.

Suddenly, my posts never get posted to the threads...kinda like what Twitter has been exposed of doing.

SD is a fraud.


30 posted on 01/14/2018 7:47:32 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: The Westerner

If “The Russians” could have influenced the election, they would have pushed for Hillary. The rest is just chaffe.

Glenn Simpson, however, is dirty as hell. If he didn’t write parts of the dossier, he sure suggested edits. And he DID use insider info, fokm DOJ. Heck, his employee’s husband worked there!

Simpson and the Obama DOJ planned and plotted this whole thing. It started in the WH and doj, went down through a maze to Steele, then back up and through the FISA court, to get legal permission for the spying they were already illegally doing!!!

TREASON!!!!


31 posted on 01/14/2018 7:54:05 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: jpsb
Sorry, but she's still free to question the veracity of those sources, and publicly so.

The Democrats are trying to shape a meida narrative in light of what's about to come out concerning the 0bama administration, the Clinton campaign, senior DOJ and FBI. The "new" narrative is "Yes, we violated the Constitution and the Constitutional rights of hundreds of Americans, but it was done in good faith."

There is NO part of that narrative that stands up to scrutiny, and Sarah Carter should know that, given how many obvious lies the administration and Clinton campaign have told to protect the "old" fictional narrative.

The fact that she's telling this story "straight" instead of offering a critical analysis of the sudden sea change does not reflect well on her as a journalist. She isn't obligated to accept spin hook, line, and sinker.

32 posted on 01/14/2018 9:49:44 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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To: TBP
Complete nonsense.

She financed a disinformation intelligence product that had nothing to do with what the Russians were doing except that it was happening coincidentally, and that fabrication was no different than the lying narrative being created by feminist lawyers and big donors that Trump was a sexual predator.

33 posted on 01/14/2018 9:53:10 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
What you say re: Sundance is mostly true, but it doesn't excuse what Sarah Carter is doing here.

There is very little doubt that senior leadership at FBI and the pure political types at DOJ were involved with the 0bama NSC in a seditious conspiracy to change the election outcome, and failing that, that make it impossible for Trump to govern. Hillary was plugged into that conspiracy by a network of Democrat partisans and through FusionGPS itself.

There is NO possibility that either the Clinton campaign or the 0bama administration were misled and acting in good faith; Carter should not be helping them to shape a "new" narrative that allows them to escape.

34 posted on 01/14/2018 9:59:17 AM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

You are correct on the plot and both Hillary and Obama being involved. Hillary directly, you betcha. Imho, Obama certainly knew many pieces. No way he was the mastermind though. Valjar, Ben Rhodes, Brennan etc. ran the op.

As for Sarah, her sources are pretty gold, but I agree on this being a false flag. I doubt she is in on it though, just being used.

But what do I know. Aside from Sundance being Mark Ivor Bradman, who has a fairly checkered past. He has some diehard enemies (not me) who despise him. Levin in particular. But he has a big enemies list lol.

Mark had a blog before TCTH, where he called himself Sundancecracker...look THAT up for balloon deflation if anyone thinks he’s some saint.

That said, TCTH is a very good site and the dude has a savant-ish organized mind. Good at keeping track and score. Not so much at predictions. And goes off the rails on people sometimes with little justification.

Imho.


35 posted on 01/14/2018 12:09:45 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (SEDITION! Obama DOJ colluded to try overthrow the President!)
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To: FredZarguna

What she’s saying is that it’s the Clintons (and 0bama and the DNC) who worked with the Russians.

We know that Steele got at least some of his “information” from Russia. It’s still the Democrats who recruited him and who paid for the disinformation. But they’re not the ones who collected it. That’s Steele, working with the Kremlin.

IOW, the Russians (among others) were the ones who made it up. The Democrats were the customer, not the provider, of teh dirty “information.”


36 posted on 01/14/2018 12:57:42 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

Bullsh!t.


37 posted on 01/14/2018 12:58:42 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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To: TBP
If the Steele Dossier was anything but a US intelligence disinformation product, the FBI would have tried to verify some of the details in it. By Comey's own admission in sworn, public, testimony before the Senate, he admitted that the FBI made no attempt to verify the Dossier, as late as March 2017.

If the Dossier was a Russian product, its contents would have alarmed US counter intel enough to at least attempt to see if it was true. Instead, people in NatSec Div DOJ and Counterintelligence at FBI referred to it as an "insurance policy." You don't refer to potentially compromising intel on the next President of the United States in that way, and you don't fail to investigate it to the fullest of your ability, unless you know there's no point in doing that because you know it's a fabrication.

38 posted on 01/14/2018 1:52:01 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

Not if the FBI’s aim was political, as the conduct of Comey and others seems to indicate. If the objective is to help Clinton and damage Trump, why bother checking it out? Like so much in the fake news media, it was just to good to check.


39 posted on 01/14/2018 2:02:46 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP
That's an excuse which doesn't fly. If the point was to help Clinton and damage Trump, the DOJ/FBI had nothing to lose by investigating it, and plenty to gain.

If there was nothing to it, they could simply suppress their finding and continue to allow Clinton to lie. If there was something there, it would've looked that much worse, and if there was any chance that Putin really could manipulate Trump, the FBI could not afford to allow that to go uninvestigated.

The Dossier is a US intelligence disinformation product from start to finish. Ohr's wife and Simpson are both CIA connected, and Sally Yates set up the National Security Division of the DOJ to be outside of IG scrutiny for a reason (even after Congress strengthened the IG law that 0bama, Holder, and Lynch flaunted for years.)

If the Dossier was legitimately Russian, there would have been no need whatsoever for FusionGPS to create so many different back-channels for its circulation. A genuine Russian dossier could have been taken to the FBI directly. Instead, FBI created a legend to allow the Dossier to be laundered back into US hands. That's tradecraft, and it's not muh-Russia.

40 posted on 01/14/2018 5:28:39 PM PST by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward 5th Avenue, to be born?)
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