Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How the discovery of an ancient mastodon ignited debate over humans’ arrival in North America
LA TIMES ^ | Dec. 22, 2017 | Thomas Curwen

Posted on 12/22/2017 10:34:31 AM PST by PIF

Accidental find that could revolutionize North America Archeology


"Jim Paces, a geochronologist at the U.S. Geological Survey in Denver, took dozens of slices from a rib and two femurs. Each slice, no wider than a millimeter, was dissolved in nitric acid.

"The resulting solution contained trace amounts of uranium and thorium, which Paces extracted. After measuring those concentrates in a mass spectrometer, Paces concluded that the bones were 130,700 years old, plus or minus 9,400 years."


"The conclusion seemed clear: Hominids, wandering through Southern California, had found a mastodon carcass and gone to work. They hauled cobblestones to the site and pounded the bones, cut out the marrow for food and broke off splinters for tools."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: ceruttimastodon; dna; godsgravesglyphs; mastadon; mastodon; pleistocene; precolumbian
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-57 last
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Wonder if in the Old West that is why they said that they saw the “Elephant”


41 posted on 12/22/2017 5:03:02 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Did You Screw up your Life? You get a “Second Chance” every second.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Wissa

Got buffalo bone grips on my Colt M1991 .45 .

Puuuuurty !


42 posted on 12/22/2017 7:33:46 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: shotgun

No shortage of pictures of buffalo bone piles/hide piles out there. Bison bone sold for up to $15 a ton and was useful for many purposes.

http://scribol.com/anthropology-and-history/history/the-near-annihilation-of-americas-buffalo-in-pictures/


43 posted on 12/23/2017 1:20:31 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
This topic was posted 12/22/2017, thanks PIF.
I found this while checking for any prior posting of this information. [The Cerutti Mastodon Discovery | San Diego Natural History Museum | April 26, 2017-April 5, 2026]

44 posted on 08/30/2026 11:01:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: PIF

In other words, “native” Americans aren’t native at all and they STOLE THE LAND. Will they give it back to the Hominids?


45 posted on 08/31/2026 8:12:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BobL
The homos came later,

They settled in SF.

46 posted on 08/31/2026 8:16:54 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: blueunicorn6

The beer at the backyard mastodon bbq tasted really good because it was 10 degrees hotter than today.


47 posted on 08/31/2026 8:20:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Varda

That is not likely-there is no credible evidence that homo erectus survived until 25,000 years ago, since homo sapiens reached Indonesia around 73,000 years ago-or a bit later-and there is no archaeological evidence the two were there at the same time. An earlier study of homo erectus in Asia done in the 90’s was dated with faulty info. Homo floresiensis hung on till later-in isolation in parts of Asia-but those Hobbit-like dwarf humans are not classified as homo erectus-they are newer and more like neanderthals and homo sapiens...


48 posted on 08/31/2026 1:30:07 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

I’ve never understood why some archaeologists throw a professional tantrum whenever the old Bering land bridge/Clovis first theory for the populating of the American continent is smacked down-there is no such thing as “settled science”-especially where humans are concerned...

There is so much evidence that people had rafts/boats to travel on seas that were shallow in the ice age to find a place with more food, or a warmer climate to live in-maybe just because they’d met some people who traveled far and had some cool new trade goods from a far place-or maybe just because they were curious about what that place across the sea/over the mountain was like. People have always been into exploring and trading-that has never changed...


49 posted on 08/31/2026 1:56:53 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: ProtectOurFreedom

Never much cared for warm beer.


50 posted on 08/31/2026 5:03:07 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin; PIF; SunkenCiv

The very first Jack in the Box drive through!......


51 posted on 09/02/2026 5:58:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: blueunicorn6

What the Mastodon was doing in your pajamas we’ll never know!........


52 posted on 09/02/2026 6:01:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: PIF

Accidental find that could revolutionize North America Archeology, since archeologists have invested all their efforts into denying that anyone inhabited North Americas before the Clovis people.

Those who persisted in digging below the Clovis level [ when they were clearly told not to ], and found older things, were routinely professionally ruined.

This guy could likely suffer the same profession fate.


53 posted on 09/02/2026 6:55:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

The buckets of coleslaw were huge.


54 posted on 09/02/2026 6:56:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("The struggle of today, is not altogether for today" -- Abraham Lincoln)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

I have always thought that the timeline was way off for humans in North America..........


55 posted on 09/02/2026 7:09:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

He was in Alabama because the Tuscaloosa.


56 posted on 09/02/2026 12:21:07 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: blueunicorn6

😁...........


57 posted on 09/02/2026 12:23:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-57 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson