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Trump thinks Scientology should lose its tax-exempt status
The Hill ^ | November 9, 2017 | John Bowden

Posted on 11/09/2017 8:20:52 PM PST by EdnaMode

President Trump has thrown his support behind removing the Church of Scientology's tax-exempt status, according to a HuffPost report.

Twitter messages from a Trump family friend and top official at the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) claimed that Trump and his family "couldn't agree more" that the church should lose its tax-exempt status.

"From The moment I saw your series I told President Trump & his family we needed to revoke their tax exempt status. They couldn’t agree more, but please don’t publicize that yet," Lynne Patton wrote to actress Leah Remini in the messages obtained by HuffPost. “This is going to get done in the next 4 years or I’ll die trying. Knock on wood!”

Patton is a longtime friend and business associate of the Trump family who has worked with the Trumps since 2009. Last year, she spoke in support of Trump at the Republican National Convention in June.

Remini, who starred on the hit series "King of Queens," is behind the Emmy Award-winning show “Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.” Season two of the series is now airing. The show is a documentary examining the Church of Scientology and its alleged abuse of critics, which Remini left in 2013.

“I look forward to doing my part to help put an end to this ongoing nightmare and blatant misuse of our IRS rules & regulations," Patton wrote to Remini. "I want to do more research on Scientology’s history with the IRS, to date, so that I can better understand what tactics have been applied and where we can pick up."

It is unclear if Patton ever communicated with the IRS, and a request for comment from HuffPost was not immediately answered. Experts told HuffPost that such an urging from an administration official would likely be illegal.

“For the White House or any administration official to try and influence who the IRS targets, for whatever reason, is wrong and could result in a violation of the law,” said former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission Larry Noble. “The IRS must make these decisions independently without any influence by the White House or administration officials.”

The IRS website states that “the IRS may begin a church tax inquiry only if an appropriate high-level Treasury official reasonably believes, on the basis of facts and circumstances recorded in writing, that an organization claiming to be a church or convention or association of churches may not qualify for exemption.”


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: leahremini; lynnepatton; religion; revoke; scientology; soundsgood; taxexempt; trump
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This is definitely a great idea!
1 posted on 11/09/2017 8:20:52 PM PST by EdnaMode
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To: EdnaMode
This is definitely a great idea!

Think for a minute. You want federal bureaucrats to decide what is a valid religion and what isn't?

Nothing could possibly go wrong with that concept, even under a Democratic administration, right?

2 posted on 11/09/2017 8:24:17 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I question why any church or religious organization should get special treatment from the IRS or tax code.


3 posted on 11/09/2017 8:26:50 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

You want federal bureaucrats to decide what is a valid religion and what isn’t?
= = =

Investigate Scientology for Organized Crime, or RICO, or kidnapping, or the other laws they break.


4 posted on 11/09/2017 8:29:20 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“You want federal bureaucrats to decide what is a valid religion and what isn’t?”

Uh, tax exemption is about “valid religion”? How about taxing all churches or taxing NONE. Taxes are punishment anyway. There should only be sales tax. That’s all. Interstate sales = tax goes to the Feds. Intrastate sales = State tax. Period. No more confusion. No more bureaucracy. Simple. You have already paid ALL YOUR TAXES in the counter or during online checkout. No back-taxes. No refunds. No deductions. No NOTHING. Simple.


5 posted on 11/09/2017 8:31:02 PM PST by sagar
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To: EdnaMode

It should, asking with Islam.


6 posted on 11/09/2017 8:32:50 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; EdnaMode

In theory I agree that I don’t want bureaucrats deciding what religions are valid.

But in practice, we already have them deciding all sorts of similar things - like whether TEA Party organizations deserve tax exempt status, whose tax returns should be audited, etc.

It is only conservatives who play fair. We need to clean house in order to allow us to play fair. Following the rules and behaving like gentlemen when the opposition behaves like street thugs is a recipe for extinction.

Liberals, communists, terrorists, fake religions, and all sorts of other scammers consistently and frequently abuse the letter of the law. It’s time to clamp down on this and fight fire with fire. For the record, I don’t think islam qualifies as a religion, either.


7 posted on 11/09/2017 8:33:29 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: EdnaMode

Islam should have no tax exempt status.


8 posted on 11/09/2017 8:34:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: EdnaMode
Uh-oh, Hollyweird's really gonna hate him now!


9 posted on 11/09/2017 8:34:53 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: null and void

>>I question why any church or religious organization should get special treatment from the IRS or tax code.

But as long as they do; how about we at least remove this money-making scheme of brainwashing cult from the list?


10 posted on 11/09/2017 8:35:49 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yet, we have jihadis hiding behind the “religion” of a murderous, totalitarian cult.


11 posted on 11/09/2017 8:37:07 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Lurking Libertarian

>>>You want federal bureaucrats to decide what is a valid religion and what isn’t?

Um, they do now.

And if you can’t remove Scientology from that list, you either can’t remove anyone; or, you don’t know what it’s all about.


12 posted on 11/09/2017 8:37:56 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EdnaMode

The HuffPost and The Hill, two hardcore Dem media organs, are selling a story.

Bah.

Fine with a lot of reasonable people if the Scientologists lost heir tax-exempt “religious” status.


13 posted on 11/09/2017 8:38:27 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Scientology is a cult, it is not a religion!


14 posted on 11/09/2017 8:39:13 PM PST by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“You want federal bureaucrats to decide what is a valid religion and what isn’t?”

That’s exactly what they do already. You think every group of crackpots that claim they are a “religion” should AUTOMATICALLY get religious tax exemption just because the group of crackpots SAY they are a religion? Because that’s the alternative to having “federal bureaucrats decide what is a valid religion”.

And BTW, it’s an absolute travesty that Scientology received tax exemption: the only reason they got it was because thousands of members sued hundreds of IRS employees personally and the IRS Commissioner did a deal with the “church” that if they were granted tax status, the “church” would have all of their members drop the thousands of lawsuits. Naturally, it was papa Bush that caved, you know, the same papa Bush who just announced he voted for Hillary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_status_of_Scientology_in_the_United_States


15 posted on 11/09/2017 8:40:36 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: EdnaMode
10% pure, flat income tax.

15% pure, flat corporate/business/self-employment tax.

No deductions, loopholes, credits, or anything.

Everybody pays the same rate.

Tax revenues would skyrocket.

$200-$400 billion wasted on tax compliance and on attorneys would vanish.

16 posted on 11/09/2017 8:40:41 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: EdnaMode

I believe it would be a huge mistake for the President to weigh in on this matter in any way, but I wholeheartedly support the idea of revoking the Church of Scientology’s tax exempt status.

I have experience with that organization, and know for a fact that it’s a despicable, mind controlling cult, that robs its members of their souls, their families, their dreams, their money, and their lives.


17 posted on 11/09/2017 8:40:46 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: null and void
I question why any church or religious organization should get special treatment from the IRS or tax code.

For one thing, legitimate churches get their income through donations, which then typically go to charities. Would you want money that you donate to charity to go to the government instead?
18 posted on 11/09/2017 8:41:44 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: generally
But in practice, we already have them deciding all sorts of similar things - like whether TEA Party organizations deserve tax exempt status,

Why should any political organization have tax exempt status?

19 posted on 11/09/2017 8:41:50 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: EdnaMode

Scientology is a total fraud. it only started calling itself a “religion” (which it isn’t) to gain that tax-exempt status. The whole fantasy was concocted by third-rate science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard. It’s all about money.


20 posted on 11/09/2017 8:45:18 PM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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