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SAT scores drop, even as number of students getting A's rises
Fox Business ^ | 7/18/2017 | Jade Scipioni

Posted on 07/18/2017 7:57:37 AM PDT by Signalman

More students in the U.S. are coming homes with A’s on their report cards, while overall SAT scores are dropping, according to a Harvard study.

The Harvard Graduate School of Education found that nearly half (47%) of all high school students in 2016 had an A average on their report cards, compared to 38.9% in 1998. Meanwhile, their average SAT score fell from 1,026 to 1,002 on a 1,600 point scale.

Additionally, the study found that only 56% of those students end up completing a four-year degree within six years of entering college.


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To: vikingd00d

Thanks!


21 posted on 07/18/2017 8:24:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
I’m not sure what they’re doing for STEM admissions.

Like everything under the bureaucratic nanny state, intervention and meddling have created a massive dichotomy. The top US STEM schools have only INCREASED their requirements for admissions, and are more difficult to enter than ever. These schools also draw the top students internationally, who have money to pay full tuitions as well - and its not just China or Korean students either. The competition is intense.

22 posted on 07/18/2017 8:24:15 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: lacrew

23 posted on 07/18/2017 8:28:10 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (If we're going to look at nature to justify our actions, then I say let's start flinging poop around)
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To: Signalman

I saw on the news a month or so back that 40 students in a local high school had perfect 4.0 averages when they graduated.

I graduated in 1965 and our valedictorian didn’t have a perfect average.


24 posted on 07/18/2017 8:28:34 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Signalman

College has become nothing but a participation trophy.

If a student turns in an assignment on time and it contains a basic set of requirements (such as it contains 600 words and addresses 4 questions), the assignment gets a perfect score regardless of the quality of the work.

If a student spends enough time and money they will graduate.


25 posted on 07/18/2017 8:29:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: All

The average grade at Harvard is now A-.

That’s the AVERAGE grade students receive.

Why?

Grade inflation. Students expect As. If professors don’t dish them out, they bash the professors on the year end “professor review” forms that are handed out. Or they drop the class.

Another big factor are parents. There are parents who confront college professors for their kids receiving B grades. College kids with mommy up there arguing with the professor. Same thing with 12th grade and under.

To avoid upset parents, give out inflated grades and they’ll think their kid actually learned something and the teacher is great.

Of course, that’s kicking the can down the road as the next year’s round of teachers has to deal with kids ill prepared to handle grade level subject material.

This has translated over to workplaces now. Young workers hop from job to job and leave those jobs where they don’t feel “appreciated.” So companies are giving out prizes and awards and constant pats on the back just to keep young workers showing up.


26 posted on 07/18/2017 8:36:29 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Signalman

simple dumb down the test


27 posted on 07/18/2017 8:38:32 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Signalman

I found some of my old report cards from 63 years ago. I still wonder how I made it out of school.


28 posted on 07/18/2017 8:40:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: FatherofFive

Another way I noticed this was when I started seeing “my child is an honor student at blank high school” bumper stickers. I knew a lot of these kids and I remember thinking I don’t think so.

A friends grandson flunked out of military school. He’s back in public high school and getting As. She wasn’t surprised because she knew how low the standards are in hs now.

This is just one more reason why we have so many low info types. That and the deliberate importing of masses of low IQ ‘cultures’.


29 posted on 07/18/2017 8:43:08 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I saw Elvis Presley’s report card.

He made average to poor grades in Memphis. He did get one A. It was in music.


30 posted on 07/18/2017 8:44:16 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: TigerClaws
It's been known for years that it's much harder to get into an Ivy League school than to stay there once you're admitted. That was a running joke even when I was in high school back in the 1980s.

The dirty little secret is that the prestige of those Ivy League schools is really based on their graduate schools, not their undergraduate programs.

31 posted on 07/18/2017 8:45:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: yarddog

4.0 is a low grade these days for valedictorians.

4.5 or so is now standard. If they take AP (advance placement, college credit) classes, they receive 5.0.

Met a mom last month. Her son had a 4.6 GPA.


32 posted on 07/18/2017 8:47:42 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Maceman
and that business hiring prefences will favor those who were smart enough not to waste money or go into debt on college

That will be the tough part. From what I've seen 90% of hiring managers in this country have completely swallowed the Kool Aid on college degrees.


33 posted on 07/18/2017 8:48:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Renegade
And 50 years ago, the upper ten percent were where the median was in 1900. The stupification factor has been operating for over a century now.
34 posted on 07/18/2017 8:48:45 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Most of the time, if you just show up, you get an “A.”


35 posted on 07/18/2017 8:49:08 AM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: vikingd00d

Good point.

The SATs were inflated in the 90s. Test was made easier. So these are lower scores using the easier system.

Look up some tests from high school in the 1950s. The American government tests would likely be failed by 90% of Ivy League college graduates.


36 posted on 07/18/2017 8:49:31 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Signalman

I remember a survey done about 15 years ago that compared public school student’s self esteem vs academic achievement. Students in DC schools scored the highest in the country in math ability self esteem and the lowest in the country in actual math results.


37 posted on 07/18/2017 8:49:53 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Signalman

The language skills of college graduates that I encounter is appalling. Even the network anchors and presidential candidates say “If I was you...” instead of “If I were you...” I knew good grammar by the time I was 10 years old.


38 posted on 07/18/2017 8:50:25 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Signalman
This is in spite of the fact that Bill Clinton forced the SAT folks in New Jersey to change the way the SAT is scored to artificially raise scores.
39 posted on 07/18/2017 8:50:49 AM PDT by NutsOnYew (If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.)
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To: Signalman

It is not only public schools. My oldest (a rising sophomore at a private high school in Tampa area) is of average intelligence but has straight As. So do all of his friends. Trust me when I say not one of these children show any smarts, drive, or academic curiosity.

What was the gentleman’s C in the olden days (like when I was in HS 30 years ago) has now become the gentleman’s A.


40 posted on 07/18/2017 8:51:10 AM PDT by pinkandgreenmom
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