Posted on 02/13/2017 6:49:25 PM PST by Ray76
A version of an iconic experiment to confirm quantum theory has for the first time used the light of distant stars to bolster the case for a phenomenon that Albert Einstein referred to as “spooky action at a distance”.
Preliminary analysis indicates that in this case, most — and possibly even all — of the experiments yet again supported quantum mechanics, says Morgan Mitchell at the Institute of Photonic Sciences (ICFO) in Barcelona, Spain, which coordinated the event. “Sorry, Einstein,” he says.
(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...
This is bloviating the history , therory and then basically just saying “ trust us ,the experment showed it worked.” ?
“The latest effort to explore the phenomenon, to be published in Physical Review Letters on 7 February”
Curse the luck, my subscription just ran out.
The weak link is found here:
‘We outsource the choice to the Universe itself,” says Friedman.’
The Universe is known to be untrustworthy. Just sayin’.
The basic idea here is that fundamental sub-atomic particles which once were intimately linked, then later separated over arbitrarily long distance, in theory, to opposite ends of the universe, somehow remain connected, instantaneously.
Can quantum entanglement someday allow faster-than-light transmission of data?
In Christian circles is this not called Pre-Determination?
“This is bloviating the history , therory and then basically just saying “ trust us ,the experment showed it worked.” ?”
The experiment has worked previously. They are just using a new random generator that makes the selection 600 years ago.
That is old had.
The basic idea here is that they are using 600 year old light as the random generator.
The “sorry, Einstein” is amateurish and misleading. Einstein’’s work led to quantum theory.
Physicists often prefer to ignore the implications of quantum mechanics. “Just shut up and calculate”. Those implications push the discussion more into the realm of philosophy instead of hard science, incorporating elements such as consciousness and free will. Quantum mechanics turned Newton’s deterministic universe on its head and uncovered a universe that behaves in very strange ways. When I am not “looking” - nothing but waves of potentiality. When I “look” - waves of potentiality crystalized into particles of observed reality that did not exist until I “looked”.
Is there really a discrete reality “out there” that exists independent of my observing it. Quantum theory would tend to imply that the answer is not “yes”. Einstein was quoted as saying, “I’d like to believe the moon is there, regardless of whether I’m looking at it or not.”
The universe starts looking less like a real thing, and more like a grand idea. Welcome to the matrix.
Pop the QWIF.
I was explaining the basic concept for anyone who wasn't familiar with the "spooky action at a distance" phenomenon of quantum mechanics. I would guess there are more than a handful here who didn't or don't know.
The article itself lays it out. You have to. You can't just start from some advanced point with the newest development in the field. At least not unless you're talking to a group of people with that sort of background.
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"Quantum physics suggests that two so-called entangled particles can maintain a special connection — even at a large distance — such that if one is measured, that instantly tells an experimenter what measuring the other particle will show.
This happens despite the fact neither particle has definite properties until it is measured. That unsettled some physicists, including Einstein, who favoured an alternative explanation: that quantum theory is incomplete, and that the outcomes instead depend on some predetermined, but hidden, variables."
Quantum theory most definitely is not predetermination. It's the antithesis. Good news for those enjoy the idea of free will. Predeterminism would belong more to Newton's world of cause/effect, action/reaction.
I’m real, but I’m pretty sure the rest of you are just here for my entertainment, so start dancing.
Didn’t mean that your post was not relevant, only to clarify that the new part was the use of 600 year old light to move back the time of the experiment selection.
” Einstein’’s work led to quantum theory.”
Max Planck came before Einstein’s work.
Sorry, then. I tool “old hat” we all know that already. :)
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