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The Daily Mail Snopes Story And Fact Checking The Fact Checkers
Forbes ^ | 12/22/2016 | Kalev Leetaru

Posted on 12/29/2016 6:49:02 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush

Yesterday afternoon a colleague forwarded me an article from the Daily Mail, asking me if it could possibly be true. The article in question is an expose on Snopes.com, the fact checking site used by journalists and citizens across the world and one of the sites that Facebook recently partnered with to fact check news stories on its platform. The Daily Mail’s article makes a number of claims about the site’s principles and organization, drawing heavily from the proceedings of a contentious divorce between the site’s founders and questioning whether the site could possibly act as a trusted and neutral arbitrator of the “truth.”

When I first read through the Daily Mail article I immediately suspected the story itself must certainly be “fake news” because of how devastating the claims were and that given that Snopes.com was so heavily used by the journalistic community, if any of the claims were true, someone would have already written about them and companies like Facebook would not be partnering with them. I also noted that despite having been online for several hours, no other major mainstream news outlet had written about the story, which is typically a strong sign of a false or misleading story. Yet at the same time, the Daily Mail appeared to be sourcing its claims from a series of emails and other documents from a court case, some of which it reproduced in its article and, perhaps most strangely, neither Snopes nor its principles had issued any kind of statement through its website or social media channels disclaiming the story.

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To: wiggen
And until the Daily Mail article it appears nobody else did either.

Incorrect. It has been known by any number of people that snopes was unreliable especially when it comes to political items.

You appear to be singling out this one reporter

I "singled out" this reporter because he is the one who wrote the article.

Should I have singled out his next door neighbor?

Sheesh!

And I am pointing out that this is something that anyone who did a small amount of digging knew years ago.

Using snopes as a fact check is like using Wikipedia for research. In both cases you are taking the word of people about which you know nothing.

As a starting place it is fine, but not as the source of all truth.

Like I said before he gets a small pat for suddenly noticing the work someone else did and deciding to fact check it.

He gets a kick for being naive for so long.

21 posted on 12/29/2016 8:20:11 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Snopes for dopes without hopes...


22 posted on 12/29/2016 8:43:47 PM PST by CDB ("I am sick and tired" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Bkmk


23 posted on 12/29/2016 10:00:30 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

how about singling out the 5000 other media outlets and 50000 other reporters?


24 posted on 12/29/2016 11:40:14 PM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Actual reviews of Wikipedia shows it to be reliable. I often use it as a starting point.


25 posted on 12/30/2016 12:29:16 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: dsc
Snopes is for Dopes.

Meet "Snopes." I am not joking. These are the 2 people who began and run the Snopes "fact-checking" website. They are Barbara and David Mikkelson of California. Again-- I repeat, this is not a joke. You are looking at "Snopes." That is their cat.


26 posted on 12/30/2016 1:25:40 AM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

To know if a site is BS or not, check what they say about Globull warming.
Snopes fails the test miserably, ‘nough said.


27 posted on 12/30/2016 2:42:53 AM PST by miniTAX
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Aren't reporters suppose to check things out for themselves?

While he was slow to realize Snopes had a leftist bias and did not have rigorous processes, I have no objection to him recognizing he had assumed things that turned out not to be so...provided he really meant "assume" in that he was not committed to the proposition, but it was the working assumption before evidence was gathered. What one should not do is "presume" in the sense of committing oneself to a position before having good evidence.

28 posted on 12/30/2016 3:30:13 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Snopes Co-Founder Embezzles $98,000, Drops Weight, Leaves Fat Wife And Marries Actual Whore

The owner of Snopes cashed his fat check from Zuckerberg.


29 posted on 12/30/2016 5:06:08 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: miniTAX

Or Benghazi.


30 posted on 12/30/2016 6:32:20 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Snopes CEO Accused in Divorce Proceedings of Embezzling Company Money to Spend on Prostitutes

Breitbart ^ | 12-22-2016 | Luke Nolan

Posted on 12/29/2016, 12:46:16 PM by brucedickinson

The CEO of Snopes.com, the fact-checking website that was recently named as one of Facebook’s “fake news” arbiters, has been accused in divorce proceedings of appropriating company funds which he allegedly spent on expensive holidays and prostitutes. David has remarried since his divorce from Barbara in 2014.

His current wife, Elyssa Young, works as an administrative worker at Snopes, but she previously had a lengthy career as an escort and adult film star working under the name Erin O’Bryn. Reviews for Young’s “services” have been left on her personal escort website as recently as 2015. Young’s websites and Twitter account describe her as “a mature and experienced courtesan, idealist, activist & dreamer.”

Her website further states, “Here’s the donation I request for my time, companionship, and entertainment” with “non-negotiable” rates of $1,200 for her minimum four hours and $5,000 for 24 hours.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3509163/posts


31 posted on 12/30/2016 9:51:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave (You can't shame liberals because, they don't understand the concept of honor and decency!It w)
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To: Stanwood_Dave

I wouldn’t trust those losers to look out the window and tell me if it’s raining.


32 posted on 12/30/2016 12:49:53 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Don’t let them fool you — The cat was the brains of the company. The only purpose the other two served is to operate the can opener.


33 posted on 12/30/2016 11:39:53 PM PST by Bob (Now, Republicans get to sing "Happy Days Are Here Again". Enjoy the suck, rats.)
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To: Bob

“Don’t let them fool you — The cat was the brains of the company. The only purpose the other two served is to operate the can opener.”

That’s no better. Everyone knows you can’t trust a cat.


34 posted on 12/30/2016 11:42:16 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush; Lazamataz; Bob; Harmless Teddy Bear; treetopsandroofs; TChad; SoFloFreeper; ...
I saw Snopes Dude and his (alleged) Escort Babe last night (New Year's Eve) in Tacoma, WA.

We were in the LeRoy Jewelry shop on Broadway, watching a demonstration of a Makah Native American Basket Weaver.

I took a couple of cell pictures and a good close look.

I'm pretty sure Laz wouldn't hit it.


35 posted on 01/01/2017 11:51:56 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Higher Taxes, Less Freedom, More Bureaucracy! What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Wow! Thanks for the pictures.

Does she really have wear jackets with "SNOPES" written on them? Sheesh.

36 posted on 01/01/2017 12:36:23 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Uncle Miltie

There could be the possibly Laz would hit it with a Baseball bat, just saying. :-)


37 posted on 01/01/2017 1:26:02 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

that is the guy who runs snopes?


38 posted on 01/01/2017 2:05:51 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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To: Uncle Miltie

She charges WHAT???


39 posted on 01/01/2017 4:23:19 PM PST by TChad (Propagandists should not be treated like journalists.)
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