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I am asking about this in light of the announcement of an upcoming wedding for a grandchild. They are waiting a year so that they can save up money for a big wedding after they have traveled, etc. At least they don't have kids yet. (Most of my grandchildren have the kids and no marriage.) And I am wondering, why? Should I feel happy for what seems to me to be just a big party?
1 posted on 12/07/2016 3:54:07 AM PST by eccentric
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Children of the Light are open about their spiritual leanings.

Children of the Dark sneak around and hide.

2 posted on 12/07/2016 3:56:45 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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First question is are they expecting someone other than themselves to pay for the ‘big wedding?’


3 posted on 12/07/2016 3:56:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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In your example (and many others, no offense) it’s a female victory celebration.


4 posted on 12/07/2016 3:58:04 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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Sadly, our children don’t always turn out as we would want them to. Often times I ask myself, what did I do wrong? Everything is acceptable, whatever makes you happy. Living in Sodom. Beam me up Lord.


5 posted on 12/07/2016 4:02:00 AM PST by FES0844 (Gv)
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My question is this:

Why would any guy want to buy the cow as long as he is getting the milk for free?


6 posted on 12/07/2016 4:03:11 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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When it comes right down to it, nobody really needs a wedding. The legalities can be taken care of in the most utilitarian way. So any wedding, regardless of whether the couple lives together, has kids - or not - is just a “big party.”


7 posted on 12/07/2016 4:04:01 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is public enemy #1)
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It depends. If you are a Christian, then it is God’s blessing upon the union. It also clears the moral problem created by living together “in sin”. If you are not a Christian, then it is an opportunity to publicly proclaim your love for one another and your intention to stay together forever. In either case, it creates a new legal position for each of them. If one is in the hospital, the other has specific rights of visit, consultation, and information not available outside of this new legal position.

As a Christian, I have trouble understanding living together without this commitment. It cheapens the entire relationship, and tarnishes not only their purpose together but their Children born out of wedlock. Marriage is hard enough as it is - why burden it further with no commitment.


8 posted on 12/07/2016 4:06:18 AM PST by impactplayer
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Marriage is a public commitment of two people often under God with witnesses.

Wedding celebrations are for celebrating to satisfy someone s ego. Sometimes the bride, sometimes the groom, sometimes the parents.


10 posted on 12/07/2016 4:09:28 AM PST by Raycpa
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Marriage hasn't lost its significance with God.....

We have perverted so much of His Word and Will that it loses perspective. As far as I'm concerned, the ceremony isn't the important part - sex either establishes the commitment or shows it to be hedonistic "recreation".

God let Satan take everything from Job except for his shrew of a wife - I think that's significant in itself...

11 posted on 12/07/2016 4:11:16 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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A commitment to God, or on the legal side a document that recognizes a contractual partnership between two parties.

Breaking that contract will cost a minimum of lawyer fees, and probably much more. But when children become involved in that dissolution, it becomes a hammer to pay for the children produced, and that is the good thing.

Now sometimes they can collect from the father even if there is no marriage contract.

12 posted on 12/07/2016 4:13:42 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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You should be happy that they are even bothering to get married.

Marriage is, and always has been, a religious institution showing commitment to be joined in the eyes of God.

Liberals have made it a government institution that they can redefine at-will to suit their agenda.


14 posted on 12/07/2016 4:16:47 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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A wedding is far more than a commitment between a man and a woman.

It signifies as God established it, that the two (man and woman) become ONE flesh.

Each literally belongs to the other.

It is no surprise that in today’s culture that marriage has degenerated so far... because God has been rejected by it.


15 posted on 12/07/2016 4:20:22 AM PST by Safrguns
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Marriage and wedding are two very, very different things.


16 posted on 12/07/2016 4:22:07 AM PST by bankwalker (Does a fish know that it's wet?)
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I’m not really sure what your post is about, but the NJ Family Court System has convinced to never get married again for any reason. I can take any objections that the Good Lord may have had with that when i apply for entrance.


18 posted on 12/07/2016 4:38:48 AM PST by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again!)
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Our daughter was married in October.

Before they got married, we talked to the kids about what the day meant to us. (They asked.)

We told them we saw it as they day where we stood before our family and friends and made a commitment to each other before God. We saw the people attending the wedding as witnesses who had an obligation to do what they could to ensure that our vows were upheld—they were making a commitment to us.

The reception was a different story. It was a fun party celebrating our new “family.”

My children are pretty traditional that way.

I think there has always been a lot made out of the reception and everything that goes around it. Like everything else these days, its “significance” has been lost and the bling has been exacerbated.


22 posted on 12/07/2016 4:46:08 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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Human beings are biologically programmed to reproduce a certain way, and to develop a specific kind of relationship in order to nurture the offspring.

Marriage is an umbrella term for the many customs and laws that have evolved to protect that relationship. Whether one wants to consider secular laws or religious customs (which were not always separate), the basis of marriage is still the biological imperative.

In the legal system, there are a lot of laws regarding the children. What happens if one parent dies? If both die? What becomes of the children? What happens to property the parents owned if the children who should inherit the property are too young to legally do so? Etc.

I have never seen people who would like to see government get out of marriage and designate marriage as a purely religious institution explain how these issues would be handled in the absence of the legal marriage contract.

Nor have I ever seen the “gay marriage” advocates, including those on the Supreme Court who declared that “gay marriage” is a thing, explain exactly what “gay marriage” is supposed to be, and how it fits into existing marriage law pertaining to children and inheritance. (Do gays really need a pseudo-marriage certificate to leave their property to their favorite partner?)


25 posted on 12/07/2016 4:55:00 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I'm puzzled about a statement you make:
The law no longer distinguishes between having a marriage license or not when people separate....

Are you sure? Not saying you're wrong, just that it sounds counter-intuitive and I just don't know any better; this implies that a man shacking up with some broad can be assessed the same alimony and child support as a married man. Who knew?

26 posted on 12/07/2016 4:55:44 AM PST by stormhill
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http://catholic-link.org/2015/06/15/10-powerhouse-quotes-from-jpiis-theology-of-the-body/


28 posted on 12/07/2016 4:58:34 AM PST by Allthesaints
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It’s a commitment to procreation. Not necessarily that they will, but a M/F couple will tend to, and all are best served by the parents permanently responsible for caring for kids & each other.

Societies have spent thousands of years developing marriage as an institution for good reasons regarding reproduction, yet ours now refuses to acknowledge that reason, opting for confused “feelings”.


29 posted on 12/07/2016 5:00:29 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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A wife got so mad at her husband she packed his bags and told him to get out.
As he walked to the door she yelled, “I hope you die a long, slow, painful death.”
He turned around and said, “So, you want me to stay?”


30 posted on 12/07/2016 5:02:48 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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