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No, the Universe is not expanding at an accelerated rate, say physicists
Science alert ^ | 10/24/16 | BEC CREW

Posted on 10/24/2016 1:58:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker

This could change everything.

Back in 2011, three astronomers were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for their discovery that the Universe wasn’t just expanding - it was expanding at an accelerating rate.

The discovery led to the widespread acceptance of the idea that our Universe is dominated by a mysterious force called dark energy, and altered the standard model of cosmology forever. But now physicists say this discovery might have been false, and they have a much larger dataset to back them up.

For a bit of background on the 2011 Nobel Prize in Physics, it was shared between cosmologists Saul Perlmutter from the University of California, Berkeley; Adam Riess from Johns Hopkins University; and Brian Schmidt from the Australian National University.

During the 1990s, these three scientists were part of competing teams that were measuring distant Type 1a supernovae - the violent end of a type of star called a white dwarf.

White dwarf stars are made from one of the densest forms of matter in the known Universe - surpassed only by neutron stars and black holes.

While a typical white dwarf will only be slightly larger than Earth, it will have around the same amount of mass as our Sun. To put that into perspective, you could fit roughly 1,300,000 Earths inside the Sun.

Now imagine that incredibly dense, dead star collapsing under the weight of its own gravity. We’re talking about a luminosity level that’s about 5 billion times brighter than the Sun.

Because each Type 1a supernova explodes with roughly the same brightness, the amount of light they give off can be used as an indication of their distance from Earth - and slight shifts in colour can also be used to figure out how fast they’re moving.

When Perlmutter, Riess, and Schmidt measured all the data for known Type 1a supernovae, recorded by the Hubble space telescope and a number of large ground-based telescopes, they found something incredibly strange.

As the Royal Swedish Academy explained on the morning of the Nobel Prize announcement in Stockholm:

"In a Universe which is dominated by matter, one would expect gravity eventually should make the expansion slow down. Imagine then the utter astonishment when two groups of scientists ... discovered that the expansion was not slowing down, it was actually accelerating.

By comparing the brightness of distant, far-away supernovae with the brightness of nearby supernovae, the scientists discovered that the far-away supernovae were about 25 percent too faint. They were too far away. The Universe was accelerating. And so this discovery is fundamental and a milestone for cosmology. And a challenge for generations of scientists to come."

The find was backed up by data collected separately on things like clustering galaxies and the cosmic microwave background - the faint afterglow of the Big Bang.

And earlier this year, NASA and ESA scientists found that the Universe could be expanding around 8 percent faster than originally thought.

By all accounts, the discovery was a solid one (Nobel Prize solid) but it posed a very difficult question - if the collective gravity from all the matter expelled into the Universe by the Big Bang has been slowing everything down, how can it be accelerating?

As Brendan Cole reported for us in May:

"There’s something pervading the Universe that physically spreads space apart faster than gravity can pull things together. The effect is small - it’s only noticeable when you look at far-away galaxies - but it’s there. It’s become known as dark energy - 'dark', because no one knows what it is."

Since scientists first proposed dark energy, no one's gotten any closer to figuring out what it could actually be.

But now an international team of physicists from institutions say don't worry about it, because it probably doesn't even exist, and they've got a much bigger database of Type 1a supernovae to back them up.

By applying a different analytical model to the 740 Type Ia supernovae that have been identified so far, the team says they've been able to account for the subtle differences between them like never before.

They say the statistical techniques used by the original team were too simplistic, and were based on a model devised in the 1930s, which can't reliability be applied to the growing supernova dataset.

They also mention that the cosmic microwave background isn't directly affected by dark matter, so only serves as an "indirect" type of evidence.

"We analysed the latest catalogue of 740 Type Ia supernovae - over 10 times bigger than the original samples on which the discovery claim was based - and found that the evidence for accelerated expansion is, at most, what physicists call '3 sigma'," reports lead researcher, Subir Sarkar, from the University of Oxford.

"This is far short of the '5 sigma' standard required to claim a discovery of fundamental significance."

Instead of finding evidence to support the accelerated expansion of the Universe, Sarkar and his team say it looks like the Universe is expanding at a constant rate. If that's truly the case, it means we don't need dark energy to explain it.

"A more sophisticated theoretical framework accounting for the observation that the Universe is not exactly homogeneous, and that its matter content may not behave as an ideal gas - two key assumptions of standard cosmology - may well be able to account for all observations without requiring dark energy," he says.

Now, to be clear, this is just one study, and it's a big, extremely controversial claim that a Nobel Prize-winning discovery is fundamentally wrong. (Because I don't have to tell you that Nobel Prizes aren't given out lightly.)

But replication of results is everything in science, and if we have a larger dataset to go on than we did five years ago, we should use it to support - or correct - previous discoveries.

The question now is whether Sarkar's team applied their new statistical model to the data in a way that best reflects the science, and it will likely spur on a whole lot of physicists to figure out which is right - accelerating Universe, or constant Universe.

"Naturally, a lot of work will be necessary to convince the physics community of this, but our work serves to demonstrate that a key pillar of the standard cosmological model is rather shaky," says Sarkar.

"Hopefully, this will motivate better analyses of cosmological data, as well as inspiring theorists to investigate more nuanced cosmological models."

The research has been published in Scientific Reports.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: accelerating; dark; energy; expanding; universe
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To: LibWhacker

I knew it!

Well, not really.


21 posted on 10/24/2016 2:19:54 PM PDT by Bullish (The fly on Hillary's forehead knows)
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To: jonno

They will form a group Dark Matter Matters.


22 posted on 10/24/2016 2:21:15 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Vaquero

I think what they are saying is only that the statistical procedure Perlmutter et al. used to arrive at 5 sigma wasn’t the “correct” one. It was too simplistic, and now, using a more sophisticated procedure, together with the additional data they have, they cannot reject the null hypothesis (namely, the hypothesis that the expansion rate is constant or slowing). Type 1a supernovae are still the standard candle.

Still... 3 sigma is very, very significant! More data are needed, imo.


23 posted on 10/24/2016 2:21:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Hostage

George Box. I got to see him speak once. Very, very impressive guy.


24 posted on 10/24/2016 2:24:06 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: faithhopecharity

The reptilians created a Dark Net. They used it to capture all the Dark Energy which they put in their basement for later nefarious purposes.


25 posted on 10/24/2016 2:30:07 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Fido969

It is only settled until the GRANT money runs out!


26 posted on 10/24/2016 2:31:04 PM PDT by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: Vaquero

What is Dr. Cooper going to do now? They took him off ‘String theory’ and had him researching ‘dark matter’, which apparently now does not exist.


27 posted on 10/24/2016 2:32:40 PM PDT by Ed Condon (subliminal messages here in invisible ink)
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To: dsrtsage
If the universe was imploding, wouldn’t things closer to the “Center of the Universe” appear to be accelerating away from us
1. The universe is not imploding; it is expanding.
2. The universe has no center.
3. If it were imploding, distant objects would be blue-shifted and  moving toward us.
From our reference point, I would think the universe exploding or imploding would look about the same.
No, distant objects would either be moving away from each other (red-shifted from the observer) under expansion or blue-shifted under implosion because the space between objects not gravitationally bound would be shrinking.

28 posted on 10/24/2016 2:34:16 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: LibWhacker

how does knowing this help me?


29 posted on 10/24/2016 2:35:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ed Condon

Don’t confuse dark matter with dark energy, the latter of which is what is under discussion.


30 posted on 10/24/2016 2:35:35 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: LibWhacker

Now, to be clear, this is just one study, and it’s a big, extremely controversial claim that a Nobel Prize-winning discovery is fundamentally wrong.

...

No kidding. The article looks like BS to me.


31 posted on 10/24/2016 2:36:47 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: LibWhacker

I didn’t think so.


32 posted on 10/24/2016 2:41:57 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: LibWhacker
From the article: "This [3 sigma result] is far short of the '5 sigma' standard required to claim a discovery of fundamental significance."

I don't know what they are talking about here.

A 5 sigma result might require that the data support the hypothesis with in excess of 99.99 percent probablility.

A 3 sigma result would still support that same hypothesis with perhaps a 99 percent probability. Ninety-nine percent certainty would not seem to justify the headline, "... the Universe is not expanding at an accelerated rate".

What am I missing here.

33 posted on 10/24/2016 2:43:17 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: LibWhacker

Algore told me it was settled science.

5.56mm


34 posted on 10/24/2016 2:45:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: LibWhacker

Tossing out of an epicycle is a beautiful thing.


35 posted on 10/24/2016 2:46:49 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Vaquero
If Klingons were real and around today...they would be many things...none of those things would be democrats.

Not so sure about that. The Council did rig things against Worf's family.

36 posted on 10/24/2016 2:47:12 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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See, I never read the thread before posting.

Since 1998...oh, I had a FReeper birthday.

5.56mm


37 posted on 10/24/2016 2:48:55 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: dsrtsage

Scientists assume that there is no “center of the universe”, so questions framed like that won’t get you anywhere.

However, if the universe began shrinking, we would cease to see almost universal redshifts in the stars and galaxies around us, and start seeing almost universal blueshifts. Since that isn’t happening, we know the universe can’t be contracting.


38 posted on 10/24/2016 2:50:34 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: central_va

Probably won’t help many people except only insofar as they enjoy learning about the world they live in. It definitely isn’t going to help us survive Hillary if she is elected!


39 posted on 10/24/2016 2:52:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

and that is floating in the aether


40 posted on 10/24/2016 2:53:22 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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