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The Coming National Gun Ban – and How the States Can Resist
American Thinker ^ | 11 Oct, 2016 | Michael Filozof

Posted on 10/11/2016 8:52:17 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The law of averages predicts that at some time in the future, perhaps as soon as 2017, the Democratic Party will once again control the White House and majorities in both houses of Congress. When that happens, the next Democratic president -- be it Hillary Clinton or someone else -- will sign into law a sweeping, foreign-style gun ban.

The legislation has already been written. H.R. 4269 would enact a national, permanent ban on the manufacture and sale of so-called “assault weapons” and all firearm magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. The bill, introduced last December, already has149 Democratic co-sponsors (218 are needed to pass the House).

H.R. 4269 would ban all AR-15 and AK-type rifles and all civilian versions of military rifles produced anywhere in the word within the past 60 years or so. The bill would also ban all parts kits, stripped receivers, “bump-fire” stocks, thumbhole stocks, trigger cranks, so-called “compliant” rifles, and “any… characteristic that can function as a [pistol] grip.” Law enforcement is exempt from the bill’s provisions.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; hr4269
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To: MtnClimber

those in DC and those who own them obviously fear an armed citizenry even though the UC citizen has and still complies with their anti-constitutional anti-second amendment laws. People do change with the right kind of encouragement, especially when they feel their own lives and their family’s lives are being threatened. History repeats.


21 posted on 10/11/2016 9:15:56 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: MtnClimber

They have no inkling the damage a competent rifleman with an old bolt-action Enfield, Moisin-Nagant or Springfield can do, one shot at a time.


22 posted on 10/11/2016 9:17:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I have put away enough money that on November 9th I am either buying more ammo or more weapons and more ammo. My wife said enough is enough with the gun buying and the accidents on the lake. Hate to tell her this, but she needs to take her head out of the sand.


23 posted on 10/11/2016 9:19:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Lester Holt — Clinton House Boy.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I really wish I had bought a case of M-Gs in cosmoline when they were $50 apiece. That and a few thousand rounds, and you have provided basic equipment for a fireteam for $500-$600.


24 posted on 10/11/2016 9:20:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MtnClimber
I truly believe we wouldn't have this problem to worry about (and many others) if we could find some way rescind the 17th. amendment....

The Senators we send to Washington think they work for the federal government rather then the state that elected them...

Maybe we need a law that says NO Senator can accept money from someone from another State.... Hell, maybe there is a law against it and they just don't enforce it...

25 posted on 10/11/2016 9:21:22 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Da Coyote

Paging Cindy Caswell... (re: “Unintended Consequences”)


26 posted on 10/11/2016 9:23:51 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: MtnClimber
Fellow FReepers, never underestimate the evil that is rapidly overwhelming the world and attempting to destroy America.

As these kind of stories come out and are posted on FR, I for one would encourage you to remember that there are people out there right now who are watching and taking notes on every publicly expressed opinion.

There will probably come a day when we will have to fight to keep what little freedom we have left.

27 posted on 10/11/2016 9:24:16 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“Civil War is coming...”

It’s here. They’ve been waging war against us for seventy years and we just haven’t fought back yet.


28 posted on 10/11/2016 9:25:45 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: MtnClimber

But...

Remember, there’s a Selective Service bill that was set aside, waiting for a vote until after Hillary “is elected,” decreeing that all women 18-30 must now enlist. 

Word to the wise gals:  She ain’t in this for YOU.  Vote for her and you’ve got a big surprise coming.


30 posted on 10/11/2016 9:30:25 AM PDT by combat_boots (MSM: We lie to you sheep at the slaughterhouse to keep you calm during slaughter)
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To: DuncanWaring

How about what a competent hunter wielding a modern bolt action rifle can do? The kind that shoots flat to 400 yards or more using state of the art optics.

IMO it was hunters that Adm. Yamamoto meant when he said `there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass’.

It is hunting rifles that the U.N. small arms commission wants to rename “medium range sniper weapons” & have them banned.

Won’t be a new civil war in my view but rather a low intensity insurgency.


31 posted on 10/11/2016 9:31:53 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: MtnClimber

Name any place in the US where bans have worked. Even mild Canada said no to registration (the precursor to confiscation). I just dont see anythig coming from DC as viable. They might try but in the end itll fail.


32 posted on 10/11/2016 9:36:02 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: MtnClimber
I was actually reviewing this bill last night and observed that mini-14s and mini-30s were exempt (appendix A-exempted weapons). I found that interesting. I also found it interesting that it will prohibit threaded barrels which ought to be unlawful as it prevents the attachment of suppressors which will remain perfectly legal. I think there is a case to be made there that this provision is an end run around the 1934 National Firearm act and, therefore, possibly unconstitutional.
33 posted on 10/11/2016 9:43:52 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: MtnClimber; All

I was harping on this bill repeatedly, a few months ago.
The response / interest — if posts responding to mine count for anything—
was zero. Crickets.
How many of you have actually read this bill? Link below. Or called, or written your congresscritters?
Hmmmm?
Don’t just call your repubbies; harass your democrats as well, with calls and letters.
The bill, cosponsored by virtually all democrats in the house, would criminalize POSSESSION of dozens of guns you CURRENTLY own, in addition to future purchase, manufacture, import, etc.
THIS IS TRULY A GUN CONFISCATION BILL.
And the bill goes far beyond so-called “assault weapons.”
It includes a very, very scary-ass long LIST of various commonly owned guns, the POSSESSION of which would be outlawed.
Read the bill. SIGN UP for UPDATES, so you’ll know when it moves forward, and you can keep the heat on your congress.
The OP is correct—if we get a democrat POTUS and majority, it might actually pass. We cannot allow this.
The stakes are huge.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

I find it very hard to believe we will take up arms and fight later, if we won’t even pick up a pen or a telephone now.


34 posted on 10/11/2016 9:46:41 AM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again)
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To: Vaquero

They figure that they won’t have to come and take them if they simply ban the transfer of any firearm. They will wait until you die and then take them.


35 posted on 10/11/2016 9:51:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: baltimorepoet
You're basically talking about Matt Bracken's "What I Saw at the Coup" scenario.

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/

36 posted on 10/11/2016 9:53:05 AM PDT by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Only way the States can survive the Corrupt Clinton Presidency is to Leave the UNION—Forge a new CSA (Constitutional States of America—this time) The new nation could name Donald Trump as its President—and Newt as her VP. Who would go out? Texas for one. Most of the south, and some of the west. First thing to do is seize the nukes and threaten to destroy Washington DC if they should resist—Think of it as a form of Urban Renewal. Flag? How about the Rattlesnake flag of the Revolution? “Don’t Tread on Me” is a good motto—That or the “Come and Take it” Flag.


37 posted on 10/11/2016 9:59:51 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: MtnClimber

The dems can have wet dreams about a federal gun ban...

We are still 50 sovereign states and they can pass any law they want out of DC...

It won’t be obeyed or enforced by the vast majority of citizens and law enforcement...

Your local sheriff going to knock on every gun owners door to collect your illegal weapon?


38 posted on 10/11/2016 10:01:14 AM PDT by Popman
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To: Psalm 73

This will be the bloodiest war in human history.

Once it begins, there will be no holding back as society rapidly collapses around it.


39 posted on 10/11/2016 10:04:35 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable #NeverRepublican)
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To: MtnClimber

Elections have consequences. If I were prez, I’d appoint 30 year olds to SCOTUS.


40 posted on 10/11/2016 10:14:56 AM PDT by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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