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Trump Implosion? New Polls Signal Deep Trouble
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, 04 Aug 2016

Posted on 08/05/2016 7:50:02 AM PDT by seastay

A raft of new national and battleground polls released Thursday found Donald Trump slipping well behind Hillary Clinton one week after the end of the Democratic convention, and as the Republican nominee reels from a public feud with the parents of a slain Muslim American soldier.

"There has clearly been a significant movement toward Clinton in the last week," said Ken Goldstein, a professor of politics at the University of San Francisco and polling analyst for Bloomberg Politics. "Some of it is a Clinton post-convention bounce, but more of it seems to be a Trump deflation or implosion."

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A NBC/Wall Street Journal national survey found Trump trailing Clinton by 9 points (up from five points last month).

Ayres cautioned that polls at this juncture early may yet be fluid.

"The general rule is that you wait a couple of weeks after both conventions finish. Before you start assuming that polls are particularly predictive," he said. "Around the middle of August we'll start to get a sense of where the race stands after the dust settles from the Democratic convention and the Trump convention."

Goldstein said polling averages are more instructive than any one poll, but that a steady Clinton lead of 7 or 8 points could harm Republicans down the ballot.

"Fifteen points is more than Ronald Reagan won in his landslide victories," he said. "If you're in a world where it's over 10, then this is a landslide of historic proportions."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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To: rrrod

I agree! Trump has all of the hopes and fears of conservative, decent people on his back. . . and what does he do to reward us? Shoot his big mouth off on extraneous issues and give the election to the most corrupt, heinous, entity ever conceived by the democratic party! When this whole mess is over where do we go as conservatives? The country is hellbent on socialism and decadence.


41 posted on 08/05/2016 8:06:07 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: odawg

So the Khans pulled on America’s heartstrings more than Patricia Smith. Something’s rotten in Denmark.


42 posted on 08/05/2016 8:06:45 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: Puppage

Fraudulent polls set the stage for massive voter fraud. It’s a comin.


43 posted on 08/05/2016 8:07:42 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: seastay

What’s changed? Media stopped the generic attacks against Trump and found some very specific attacks that strike body blows. ‘Crying baby’, ‘attacks against a dead solder’s grieving father’, these are hitting flesh rather than sliding off.

Media were advertising for Trump when they were talking about his building a wall between the US and Mexico and laughing about Mexico paying for it.

And you can expect this pattern to continue; overwhelming pushing of every story that they find tests well with audiences (we’ve already seen the e-mails that the DNC uses to control the media), and every misstep by Bill Clinton’s 3rd term team utterly ignored.

They are in lockstep right now, as evidenced by the universal descriptor of Trump’s speech as ‘dark’ (which of course started before he even spoke a single word...)

The only silver lining is that had these attacks stopped as soon as they showed they were being effective, I’d be deeply worried. Instead, they are pressing the attack. Which means there will be a limited cycle it will run, and Trump will likely bounce back.

Oh, and of course, every matrix in every poll is maxed for Bill Clinton’s wife. Which means automatically adding in the margin of error to Hillary, and subtracting it from Trump to make the gap as wide as possible.


44 posted on 08/05/2016 8:07:57 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: seastay

Polls changed quickly because Trump makes mistakes, has not united Republican support, and 90% of the media is proClinton and antiTrump. His errors are magnified and Clinton’s are ignored.


45 posted on 08/05/2016 8:08:02 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
has not united Republican support, a

Because the GOPe has seen to that. They want Hillary.

46 posted on 08/05/2016 8:09:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TennTuxedo
20 years in the making, this campaign is not about Hillary winning, she is despised, but about her being installed by the conglomerate that needs her there.
47 posted on 08/05/2016 8:09:38 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error)
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To: seastay

Let’s just refer to HilLIARy as “Rapist-enabler HilLIARy” from now on

Every single time. “Crooked HilLIARy” works too but this is more specific and ties-in the bent one.


48 posted on 08/05/2016 8:09:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

to all hilary supporters, especially the unenthusiastic (ie, most of them):

you got this. you got it in the bag. you have stopped the crazy guy, so feel free to take the day off on election day. he has no chance. now go back to bed and don’t bother voting.


49 posted on 08/05/2016 8:10:07 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Jeff Chandler

My guess is Assange will never release those emails. That the final touches are being put on a secret deal to spring him from the embassy basement, even as we speak.


50 posted on 08/05/2016 8:10:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: seastay

With 50% of the sheeple following what the media says, you’ll have that.

Retards, all of them.


51 posted on 08/05/2016 8:10:13 AM PDT by soycd
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To: rrrod
The media has been deliberately spinning a very dishonest narrative of the Khan flap. They are leaving out the essential details to paint a picture that you have bought into.

How to counter it? We need to be careful not in anyway to asperse the dead soldier; but to point out that it is the Hilary campaign that is abusing his sacrifice, by using it to have his father, who has a very different agenda, slander Donald Trump. It is a lot like the Mrs. Jim Brady misuse of her husband's incapacitated remains as a prop for trying to take away Americans' Second Amendment Rights.

I agree that Donald Trump should not have continued to personally respond to the Senior Khan--particularly once the media demonstrated their total bias in their coverage. He should have let someone far down on his staff, respond by attacking the Clinton campaign for misusing the hero--even as they completely slandered the mother of one of the brave victims of the Benghazi affair. (And obviously, the two dust-offs need to be linked, when & if discussed from our side.)

52 posted on 08/05/2016 8:10:53 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: seastay

I don’t know a single person that has moved toward Hillary from anywhere.

I suspect this is all scripted, and the Diebolds are being programmed as we speak.


53 posted on 08/05/2016 8:10:53 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: seastay

It’s all BS!

Trump said “Why didn’t the woman speak?” and his poll numbers tank? Makes no sense.


54 posted on 08/05/2016 8:11:26 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Hell No, DNC, We Won't Vote For Hillary!)
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To: kingu

Mr. Trump needs to realize that the media now has had over a year to study his tactics and adjust.

He likewise needs to adjust his and start throwing them a few new curveballs.


55 posted on 08/05/2016 8:11:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
This will be the narrative the entire time. The Polls are crap but it they tell the lie long enough, the mushheads might believe it.


Correct. Trump has slipped some in the polls, and yes, a chunk of that has been self-inflicted. But is he 15 behind Hillary? Not even close. I would be surprised if he is more than 2 behind her at most, and in all likelihood I think he is probably 2 points up on her even after a couple of bad weeks.

Its a long way until November. The media wants to sell a narrative HARD right now so that come October when they have to start releasing real polls instead of Potemkin polls, they hope the public has so bought into the lies that Trump really IS 15 points behind.

56 posted on 08/05/2016 8:12:52 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: who knows what evil?

Concern trolls. We are crawling with them.


57 posted on 08/05/2016 8:13:05 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Good suggestion.


58 posted on 08/05/2016 8:13:31 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
The people piling on Trump are missing the point. If it's not Khan it's the plane. If it's not the plane it's Melania. If it's not Melania we'll invent whatever we need to, to carry the narrative that "Trump is imploding."

Then we'll put out the story that "Trump is imploding" and ask everyone what they think about Trump imploding, and report that.

My personal favorite was Obama attacking Trump as being unfit to the President because he continues to be attacked in the press.

The Media/Government Complex is in a full-feedback loop right now, one speaker attacking Trump and the other defending Obama/Hillary. It's full-on Propaganda now.

59 posted on 08/05/2016 8:15:56 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: surroundedbyblue

If you put Hillary’s audience in one of the Trump stadiums it would only fill a couple of rows of seats.

I wish Trump would have a large screen at his rallies in which he would show pictures of Hillary’s last rally in comparison to his. What a joke that would be. Since the camera crews don’t want to show how HUUUGE his audience is a screen behind Trump could not be kept from the viewers at home. Then everybody would see what a joke the Hillary campaign is. Hillary may have big money from the big donors but her support from the public is on life support.


60 posted on 08/05/2016 8:17:07 AM PDT by cradle of freedom
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