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Microsoft Must Be Getting Desperate (V)
5-17-2016 | Orangehoof

Posted on 05/17/2016 10:40:44 AM PDT by OrangeHoof

I live by myself and had been away from home for 12 hours. I often leave my home computer turned on even when I am gone. Last night, I noticed my computer screen was on and my computer was downloading Windows 10. I tried to stop it and, when I couldn't, I simply shut the computer off.

After turning it back on, it said "restoring to your previous version" and I'm now back to Windows 7. I noticed that somehow my update settings had all been changed to allow Microsoft maximum access and Windows 10 upgrade was now categorized as "important" rather than "recommended".

I caught the upgrade when it was at 12% so it had not reached the point of uninstalling so I suspect I have just a partial version on my hard drive that can't do anything.

Needless to say, I was furious so I contacted Microsoft support and gave "Andrew Z" a piece of my mind. It's one thing to ask me to upgrade. It's a whole 'nother thing to force the upgrade behind my back.

I turned off all Windows updates (not recommended) and told them I will switch when *I* think it's best, not when they do.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; upgrade; vanity; vms; windows; windows10; windows7; windowspinglist
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To: OrangeHoof

Windows 10 is better.

Just let it happen.

You’re going to have to get it eventually.

Resistance is futile.


21 posted on 05/17/2016 11:00:04 AM PDT by toast
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To: MeganC

Wonder if a Linux OS can see them?


22 posted on 05/17/2016 11:01:34 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: OrangeHoof

I would do a disk defrag wih a tool that lets you view individual cluster and see if you have a lot of unmovable files now ($files). Some are you hibernation and page memory that are normal, but you you have a lot of scattered individual $files, you need to get rid of them so you can use the disk effectively and without slowing your system down. The only way to get rid of them is through cmd line commands.


23 posted on 05/17/2016 11:01:40 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: OrangeHoof

Windows 10 is literally spyware designed to function like an Operating System. It’s not an OS. It makes 80 connections just as boot to various microsoft servers. I know many of you are oblivious to how computers work, but you need to wrap your head around that fact that your time using Windows is over(if you value any personal data whatsoever). You can’t use it anymore.

There are programs like ‘Destroy Windows 10 Spying’ by nummer(russian cracker), and the like, but they will only work until the next critical security update is needed, and re-establishes your connection with Microsoft, meaning they own you again. This OS is now dead stick, as pilots say. I suggest you look at running something else like Linux Mint or the like. If it’s just a gaming machine, then keep using it for useless information. If it’s anything else/important, I suggest you make plans to migrate elsewhere.


24 posted on 05/17/2016 11:02:08 AM PDT by JFoobar
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To: balk

“My PC fully installed Windows 10 overnight last night without my knowledge or consent.”

So your PC downloaded Windows 10, and installed it....while skipping past all of the human interactions that you have to engage in before it actually does anything?

I just installed it on a laptop today, and I had to click yes on the EULA, sign into my wifi, and chose a partition before it did anything, not to mention sign into my MS account!

Your PC could not have “fully installed” it. It would be the first time in PC history an entire OS downloaded and installed itself blind on a PC with no human input.


25 posted on 05/17/2016 11:02:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: wally_bert

I don’t know anything about Linux. Only had to learn about computers after my old laptop got slaughtered by a virus a couple years ago.


26 posted on 05/17/2016 11:03:07 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MeganC

“Windows 10 can create secret partitions on your HDD”

No it can’t.

Where do you people dig up this nonsense anyway?


27 posted on 05/17/2016 11:03:09 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: toast

There are many older programs that will run under win7, but are not compatible with win10.


28 posted on 05/17/2016 11:04:32 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Lucky9teen

Thanks, I’m trying this.


29 posted on 05/17/2016 11:04:33 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: VanDeKoik

It is known to sometimes create a recovery partition when W10 is installed but it can also create one or more partitions (possibly in error, but still) on your HDD while it is still running W7.

Easiest way to check is to let W10 download to your HDD and then see if you have any new partitions afterwards.

Then tell me if you still think it’s nonsense.


30 posted on 05/17/2016 11:06:36 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Actually it does in the sense it can create a backup partition that is not normally visible.


31 posted on 05/17/2016 11:08:32 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: OrangeHoof

Switch to Linux. It’s easy, free and beats the hell out of any Microsoft OS. I recommend Linux Mint 17.x. It will never download anything you didn’t ask for. And you never have to reboot after installing anything.


32 posted on 05/17/2016 11:10:01 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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33 posted on 05/17/2016 11:10:03 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JFoobar
I suggest you look at running something else like Linux Mint or the like.

OpenVMS is being ported to the x86_64 architecture, that could shake things up in the PC market.

34 posted on 05/17/2016 11:10:51 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: glorgau

That’s great, thanks. Steve Gibson is always a trusted source.


35 posted on 05/17/2016 11:12:14 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Kirkwood
There are many older programs that will run under win7, but are not compatible with win10.

Then the original author of the program needs to update it or the user needs to find an alternative. Operating systems change and they can't support every 20 year old piece of software.

36 posted on 05/17/2016 11:12:24 AM PDT by toast
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To: VanDeKoik

The automatic download installs and opens a win10 installer program without any human interaction.


37 posted on 05/17/2016 11:12:57 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: wally_bert
Wonder if a Linux OS can see them?

Use gparted from a Linux LiveCD and it will see them. Then you can delete them.

38 posted on 05/17/2016 11:13:06 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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To: OrangeHoof

Same thing happened to me, but I didn’t catch it in time last night.

Now it’s putting my NAME out there, which is something I have tried hard to avoid in 20 years of internet use.


39 posted on 05/17/2016 11:13:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: OrangeHoof

On both my Win7 desktop and laptop, I have Win upgrade turned off.

Frequently, MS still manages to put a ‘critical upgrade/update’ on. I can tell, because some screwy things start happening. I do a system restore using a point before the ‘critical’ and restart the computer. The ‘screwy’ seems to vanish.

I do keep fairly up-to-date images of my OS drive. Numerous times they have saved me from OS problems. I also do not have to reinstall every program. I use Macrium Reflect free home version to save the image files to a USB drive.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

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My brother’s laptop installed Win10 over his Win7 last week. I haven’t heard whether he likes it.

I do have Win10 on a extra hard drive. I tried it out for about an hour. Hated the whole experience.


40 posted on 05/17/2016 11:17:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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