Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

[LucyT]

Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane she was traveling in crashed into the ocean was wearing an infant life vest and the pilot didn't give a safety briefing before takeoff, according to details in a National Transportation Safety Board report.

An autopsy determined Loretta Fuddy died of an irregular heartbeat from hyperventilating after she exited the plane, which landed in choppy water off the island of Molokai. The pilot and seven other passengers on the 2013 Makani Kai Air flight survived.

Pilot Clyde Kawasaki reported to the NTSB that he heard a loud bang, followed by an immediate loss of engine power soon after the single-engine Cessna took off from Molokai, headed for Honolulu.

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[rx]

they prove that it is Jake's hair and not a manikin's

They do nothing of the sort!

You nonsensically declare that the same way as you did earlier in bald-face, whole-cloth fabrication fashion. With no regard for the truth (in post #235) as you said, "It also looks like only the top cell is inflated. The bottom cell is flat, not inflated."

Your saying something certainly doesn't make it true. As with your history of distortion of a wide-angle view in #303 of something other than an MKA Grand Caravan, you've shown your penchant for misdirection and false perceptions.

[WildHighlander57]

OK what Mark Peer said fits the pic here, where she’s laying flat (h/t to Rx)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=247#247

I can check the vid to see if she is upright in any of the subsequent scenes .

[4Zoltan]

“Your saying something certainly doesn’t make it true. “

Oh the irony.

Not a single drop of water in the manikin’s hair or on Jake’s upper body and head.

So Jake threw the manikin out of the plane before he exited it. So you admit the floating hand is not the manikin’s. Since it was still in the plane behind Puente when he stood up and followed Jake out.

[rx]

You can't see that upper part of anything that would be the hair on JK's head in those pictures and neither can you say to whatever degree either his or the mannequin's hair might have been wet.

Nonetheless, without evidence, you would try to tear down a rather simple fact, using nothing more than derision, claimed irony.

That fact is: Jake' brown hair was nowhere near long enough to reach his back and nowhere near that color.   But...Ms Fuddy's was exactly that color!

Oh, the deceptive web you try to weave, again and again!

[rx]

What did the “mannikin” do, pop up like “ Kilroy was here” -—just— in that one pic in #258?

That's really rich, WH57! You'd dare claim one proof is not enough? "Give me more," she says.

I haven't let go of what the lot of you wanted to call a blur (red hair, forehead and an eyebrow), but I kept right on with what you claimed was JK's hair next to the fuselage as the answer.

Now, since JK's hair is nowhere near long enough to reach the middle of his back, despite that being what the picture clearly shows, you want more proof.

Your more proof are the divers that were at the plane with their equipment, 20 minutes before any "official rescuers would arrive," clearly caught on camera:

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Those collectively prove this to have been a military diver exercise where a 6'+-tall, skinny one replaced Ms Fuddy while all the plane's passengers were still around her. Yamamoto saw it all happening under his nose, but chose to let the parish priest wax poetic and false for him. If Fuddy's extraction hadn't been part of the pre-determined plan, he and all the others--within 15--would have been screaming to high heaven. But they didn't. And don't forget about his court files that eventually collected money from Pratt & Whitney Canada as if this had all been an accident. Ha! What a guy!

[4Zoltan]

Show me the water on Jake’s chin, left arm and shirt. Is your wild claim now that Jake’s hair got wet but his face and left arm didn’t?

And those aren’t divers at the plane but splashes from waves breaking over the two antennas.

And I take it you agree that the floating hand was not the maniki’s.

[butterdezillion]

Where’s his right arm in that image?

[butterdezillion]

Why edit out the cabin portion of a video that you give to the NTSB as if it was intact?

[butterdezillion]

WE’re supposed to believe that his hair was that curly and went down his back that far and yet when he was in the seat there was no hair sticking out under his clue cap - not even the straight black hair that we SEE sticking out under his cap when we’re sure it’s him?

I hope my previous post didn’t get stuck in moderation: Where is his right arm in that image?

[rx]

Below is the relevant USCG Rescue Swimmer Triage. It shows that unless Ms Fuddy were "clearly dead," he mustgive her CPR, but he didn't. Only in the case she was "clearly dead" (meaning "decapited, incinerated, have major organs (heart, lungs, brain or liver) separated, or had rigor mortis or lividity present." could have left her (as in fact did) in the water.

And yet, somehow, forty minutes later, when the second USCG swimmer hoisted her, her condition became "CRITICAL."

Now Fuddy had exited the scenario about 4:10, just a half hour before the first swimmer found her. How could she possibly have been determined by the second swimmer to have been CRITICAL when 40 minutes earlier she was deemed "clearly dead" (with those criteria above)? Hmmmm?

Curiously, only at 4:20 do the "official rescuers" begin appearing on-scene, 3 helicopters and a C-130 command ship, to begin lifting passengers out of the water.

Once, according to the advance plane, the red-wigged diver took her place, she had a half hour head-start before the first USCG rescuer would find her. For her to be essentially a mile away, the "currents" would have had to be drifting at about 4mph, which is a brisk walking speed, were it on dry land. That's rather unexpected, wouldn't you say?

But there was a USN MH-60R Seahawk on scene that just before he put down his two smoke floats at 1/2 mile and a mile west of the original ditching site, said he saw "two groups of three survivors" heading westward.

There were still five survivors near the plane: FP, KY, FH, RK and JK. There weren't eleven people on the plane, only nine!

Is this a false scenario or what?

[rx]

The red arrow in the top-middle picture of post #425 does not point to "two antennas," as you wildly conjecture.

If you have no aviation awareness, please don't bother trying to pass such things off to those who do. You're only hurting your own credibility.

All you're really doing is showing us all the great lengths to which you'll go in saying anything in defense of this scenario, as if it were credible. But, that's actually be clear from your earlier posts, too, for those who could see it.

This was a hoax, one that cost the taxpayers scores of millions of dollars. A lot of interested people want to see that set aright. I'm just the messenger. If it weren't me doing it, there's plenty of other aviation folk and lawyer-types that have this information, too, to be able to share and work it if I'm not here. Get used to it--all of it.

The salvor would later try to explain to the media that the plane was taken apart in a winter swell. Well, no, divers were already busy working on the engine even as the plane occupants were around it, as seen by the copious bubbles above the flight deck and engine in the following picture:

[4Zoltan]

“he was in the seat there was no hair sticking out under his clue cap”

You can’t see his hair down his back because of the seat back.

What color is the back of Jake’s seat in the Puente’s video? What color is the back of Rosa Key’s seat?

[4Zoltan]

My guess in the water view of it obstructed by the rest of him.

Where is the rest of the manikin?

Have you ever been in deep water and had to tread for any length of time?

[butterdezillion]

So Bruce Briley is the one who didn’t have a lifejacket, which explains why there are only 7 lifejackets in the NTSB line-up.

Marilyn had 2 lifejackets; the one with the phallus/transmitter which she hid between her legs underwater is not in the NTSB’s line-up either. But the other one is there.

Which means that one of those there is the one the USCG says they retrieved “Fuddy” with and tore off her. Only one is torn. Not much chance to mistake which one the USCG claimed to have taken off of Fuddy... It’s the one that the NTSB marked with “FUDDY” and analyzed the CO2 cartridges from. It had one CO2 cartridge intact - in spite of the many images you’ve posted, rx, showing that both her lifejacket’s chambers were inflated. What the USCG claims to have retrieved with Fuddy is not what Fuddy is videotaped wearing. Who DID they retrieve, then, and claim it was Fuddy?

So Bruce is saying Fuddy died in his arms. How does that work when she was put next to him in the helo and was supposedly being given CPR? And why would he tell an interviewer that he couldn’t be sure it was her because he was out of his mind at that point - yet go on to put in his book that he held her as she died?

I can’t see the article because I’m not a subscriber to “Maui Now”. Apparently the rest of this crew here must be subscribers. I wonder if they’re from Maui. Where you guys all from?

[butterdezillion]

Maybe the Dolly that was lifted with the USCG in the half-inflated infant lifejacket was made so it appeared to have rigor mortis. But then when the USCG got it in the helo they saw the tag that said, “critical condition” so they did CPR.

Maybe that’s why it was also claimed on the very poorly-filled-out USCG helo communication log that Puentes, as he was being transported to Honolulu, may have been “slightly hypothermic” after deliberately staying in 79-degree water for about an hour before making a 6-minute-max swim/walk onto shore. Maybe that’s why they bundled him up like a mummy. Maybe there was a sticker on him that said “HYPOTHERMIA”. An hour in water the temperature of a “very warm” swimming pool - according to a site I linked earlier which said that even a very sensitive person could be comfortable in 79-degree water for a long time...

Seems like it was somebody here on FR who first suggested that maybe Fuddy was hypothermic - so cold in that water that it caused a heart attack or something...

[butterdezillion]

We can see the whole bottom edge of the blue cap that you guys are claiming is Jake. There is no black hair sticking out anywhere. Only red curly hair at the nape.

[butterdezillion]

Not if I can just float, which was the case for all of these people - even Bruce Briley who didn’t have a lifejacket and is seen floating on his back.

And these people are seen STANDING in the water in multiple places, so having to tread water doesn’t even apply to this situation. Rosa sometimes has her lifejacket inflated and sometimes not. Obviously she didn’t consider it very necessary - probably because she can stand in the water, as she is seen doing in multiple places in the video. Like Keith Yamamoto is seen doing right next to Fuddy. His lifejacket isn’t touching the water at all.

For that matter, it looks doubtful that HER lifejacket is even touching the water at that point, as she is laying horizontally with shoulders/lifejacket and knees above the water. That doesn’t work for normal floating. What is holding her above the water at that point - the same point when Keith Yamamoto is standing in the water with lifejacket not touching the water?

What would explain that?

And why would Loretta Fuddy be frightened enough to have an arrhythmia in water she could have stood in?

[4Zoltan]

Oh, I see these two little antennas on the fuselage don't exist. And so naturally waves breaking over them will not be disrupted causing splashes.

[rx]

How in the world is it relevant that there be or not be water on Jake's chin, left arm or shirt!?

Jake's brown hair was not at that time long enough to reach more than an inch or two past the tops of his shoulders, but the picture has red hair to the middle of his back or even farther, even while still wavy and probably not water soaked--not that wetness matters here.

Splashes from waves breaking over the two antennas." See those top three pictures in #452 again, and how the plane rises out of the water and that the green slip-n-slide has been placed against the side door--all by divers engaged in a hoax and its cover-up!

Waves!   That explains it!   I suppose the plane ran into a rowboat that the "capricious currents" happened to bring along?
You can make a guy laugh!

[4Zoltan]

“And why would Loretta Fuddy be frightened enough to have an arrhythmia in water she could have stood in?”

That’s your fantasy. All of the underwater shots show no ground for them to stand on.