Is this the one you mean? That's a snip from a graphic way back on the thread. All I can see is two images pasted together, one in natural interior light, the other taken in bright sunshine closer to the window.
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Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT
Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane she was traveling in crashed into the ocean was wearing an infant life vest and the pilot didn't give a safety briefing before takeoff, according to details in a National Transportation Safety Board report.
An autopsy determined Loretta Fuddy died of an irregular heartbeat from hyperventilating after she exited the plane, which landed in choppy water off the island of Molokai. The pilot and seven other passengers on the 2013 Makani Kai Air flight survived.
Pilot Clyde Kawasaki reported to the NTSB that he heard a loud bang, followed by an immediate loss of engine power soon after the single-engine Cessna took off from Molokai, headed for Honolulu.
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Is this the one you mean? That's a snip from a graphic way back on the thread. All I can see is two images pasted together, one in natural interior light, the other taken in bright sunshine closer to the window.
Maybe the dummy is still in the plastic bag in his pocket? My my, those seats are narrow...Nice image btw.
My picture #2 corresponds to your #7 (Key's knee), and my picture #6 corresponds to your #8 (Key's shoulder). BUT my #6 is without cropping or rotation; it shows the context and surrounding area.
In my pictures #2 through #7, the camera is panning from the lower part of Mr Keys body to the top part.
At picture #3 there is his torso with nothing behind his back.
At picture #4 there is still nothing behind him and the tip of his ponytail comes into view at the left edge of the picture; it is reddish orange.
At picture #5 more of his reddish orange ponytail comes into view, and also his chin is visible at the left edge of the picture; there is NOTHING at his back.
Picture #6 shows his mouth at the left edge of the picture partly obscured by his forearm. His ponytail is in the upper left corner of the picture behind his neck, and above the white of his shirt. It is the upper part and is darker. It is NOT a mannikin face.
My picture #7 shows Key's ear hole at the edge of the picture, and his mouth is almost all obscured by his forearm. His ponytail is still in the upper left corner of the picture, behind his neck and above the white of his shirt. Again, NOT a mannikin face, that dark reddish part is his ponytail.
1 Keys bailing out door
2 Keys left leg NOTE: this is same as your #7
3 Keys left elbow and torso NOTE: his torso with nothing behind his back
4 Keys tip of ponytail It is reddish orange. NOTE: his torso with nothing at his back
5 Keys more of reddish orange ponytail & start of chin NOTE: still nothing at his back
6 Keys all of ponytail- upper part darker & mouth visible NOTE: same as your #8 & his ponytail is in upper left corner, behind neck and above shirt
7 Keys ear just visible and mouth almost all obscured by forearm; dark part of ponytail still in upper left corner, behind neck and above shirt
8 Key being interviewed afterward; can see ponytail
9 Key being interviewed afterward; can see ponytail color is reddish orange
which is obviously not a half-inflated infant lifejacket that was mistakenly labeled as being Fuddy's. So they are all accounted for. Five adult lifejackets (Yamamoto Puentes, Bruce Briley, Rosa, and Jake) two infant lifejackets (Hollstein and supposedly Fuddy), Kawasaki had no lifejacket, and Marilyn's lifejacket is not normal and is missing from the line-up. That's nine. All PIW's lifejackets accounted for.
There is no way that wad of hair was tucked up inside that blue shower-cap-type thing. And what would be the reason for him to tuck it in anyway? All of these photos show that there should have been more hair sticking out from under his hat, if that blue hat on the window side of the neckrest was really his. There was a lot more hair sticking out from the blue cap on the aisle side of the neckrest...
Anything could have happened while Puentes videotaped everybody’s feet, right before this. And remember how the first stories said that they tried to get the door open and couldn’t and then Jake figured out how to get it open? Isn’t it strange how none of that shows up in the video? We have no idea what has been edited out of this video. It’s been a long time since I looked at some of these details (and I’ve been dealing with a lot of stress in my life since then, for some reason...) but I vaguely remember the ABC announcer talking about how far into the video it was when the passengers were out, but the time that had actually transpired on the video was less than the timestamp he mentioned, which suggests that some of the footage was edited out of what we were allowed to see - easy to do when the exif data is removed, as was the case for these video frames, if I understand correctly. There was a point at which Puentes made the video go black, which allowed him to resume at whatever point he wanted to, and the discrepancy suggests he took out a chunk of time.
But it’s late and it was all too long ago. And I’m not going to go on a wild goosechase to find the old information. Nobody is any more willing to consider it now than they were back then. And some who pretended to consider things back then seem to be a little less fearful of their mask slipping now.
Thqnks for posting that sequence, 4zoltan!
Compare the distance between the seat top and the bottom of the cap, in figure 1 (Mr Key when plane level)
and that same distance in figures 4 and 5, (when plane sharply banked).
If it’s the same person, it should be about the same, taking into account any slight leaning over to the right from the plane’s motion.
What I’m checking is the height of the person sitting in that seat, at the two different views.
Same height? Then it’s the same person.
Check out 4zoltan’s pic :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=351#351
Shows the seat back all the way across, from left side all the way to the window.
No mannikin.
And that “second” ball cap was taller?
Then why don’t we see it to the right of Mr Key?
Any possibility the plane not only banked left, but went down then up, thus getting folks’ butts situated over to the right, and their bodies not angled but sitting straight ?up
4zoltan,
And if you sequence back from that point, Mr Key is seen going past puentes, with nothing in his right hand.
And once he’s gotten past puentes, he (Mr Key) and Holstein have their hands full getting the door open.
No. Mannikin.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=381#381
Two images of the same person, side by side, one under interior light, the other in bright sunshine.
We aren’t speaking the same language. I show you an image of SEVEN jackets previously posted and ask, considering that the pilot didn’t have a jacket, and there were NINE people involved, there should be EIGHT jackets. They don’t all have labels, and one is missing, where is it?
You show me an underwater image that might be anything, and tell me that is Marilyn Briley with the missing jacket that has a transmitter of some kind attached to it...
And therefor all NINE jackets are accounted for.
Am I shrinking or is someone cutting bits off the legs of my chair?
The seven jackets remain seven jackets while Marilyn Briley’s jacket is underwater. You can’t add hers to the seven jackets in the image.
If it’s missing from the seven lined up, it’s missing, no matter who it belonged to. We can’t tell who it belonged to because they are not all labelled.
So we still have seven jackets. Plus one missing, plus the pilot didn’t have one. There’s your NINE people.
I have no idea of what is going on under water in your image, but if I had to guess, I would guess that someone is floating, head on the surface, body under water, one leg with a shoe on, and one leg without a shoe.
What that mass is on the right I have no idea.
What I sound like is perplexed. Don’t take it personally.
And just for the sake of it, maybe look at what that red thing is in the water. It appears in the video as the passengers exit:
Red object shown on bottom right hand corner of graphic
Then FN's version:
"she's well and truly dead."
You three of you are frequently obtusely, purposely disingenuous and don't really deserve answers to your "just asking questions" (WH57). However, to highlight these game-playing facts (claimed in your own words) one more time, Here's just some of the proof that Fuddy was not dead, as FN claims:
The first shows Fuddy kicking up her known-to-be-Fuddy show, and the second shows Fuddy kicking up her known-to-be-Fuddy left knee.
Just look at that fully inflated adult life jacket on Fuddy that had both cartridges punctured!
These latter two pictures were of occurrences after FN's "Loo k really closely now" picture citation.
In the passenger-labeling picture at #266, BB claims he's "probably" the person seen along the starboard wing, who is more properly labeled as Flip Hollstein, claiming he's (as BB) bringing his wife (MB) a life jacket. Flip had no such extra life jacket with him, and moments after that frame was taken, is seen to swim rearward, never having reached proximity to Marilyn Briley. Yet Bruce was indeed keeping both life jackets that Marilyn would wear:
The regular adult life jacket BB's chest he has given to MB right about the time Fuddy has been replaced in the scenario by a diver and the other he gives to her just before they leave the plane area, as seen in post #385.
BB would have been able to recall this pre-planned choreography in his sleep, yet chooses to hide them falsely in his book's text. We may rest assured no innocent passenger had a life jacket attached to a foot-and-and a half long phallus in the plane. (Or would someone care to disagree?) These life jacket-swapping shenanigans (Fuddy, too?) are a hallmark of kind of deceit that was engaged in by these passengers. No such happenings would have found their place in an unrehearsed accident scenario!
Hence, these activities confirm the nature of a hoax.
The claim is made that the patch of reddish orange in upper right corner in top pic is forehead and eyebrow of a mannikin, and is behind Mr Key:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=258#258
And in pic #8 here, the same claim is made; a mannikin behind Mr Key:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=298#298
In post #298 point #8 above, the claim is made that there is only one frame showing the “mannikin”.
But in my sequence in post #384, there are 4 frames before rx’s “mannikin face” pic, the 4th being the frame corresponding to rx’s pic #7 in post #298, Mr Key’s knee.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=384#384
The frames in my sequence show that what is claimed to be a mannikin face, is actually key’s ponytail.
Those frames were left out in rx’s posts, in order to make it look like there was a mannikin, but when the missing frames are put in, it tells a very different story ...
that there was no mannikin, just his ponytail in back of Mr Key in those stills,
See how the conditions really were?
That unusualy-designed black and yellow bag sat at roughly that location for multiple minutes without moving more than a few inches. 
People floated around in various orientations that belie they were not facing any strong wind or water current that would (as claimed by FP) have whisked them from the plane area "within a minute" if they didn't hang onto the airplane. Those were just part of the lies that were uniformly on passengers' and others' (to include WH57) lips.
Flip Hollstein described how the was water was at his deplaning, by saying it was, "like going into a swimming pool. A USCG rescuer would an hour later describe the conditions saying the water, "wasn't rough."
The following frame from the video, spanning a couple hundred yards of distance, horizontal to the water, (look really closely now):
generally shows a very placid scene, notwithstanding the videographer's obvious efforts elsewhere and throughout to make his scenes appear to be rough and tumbling. (He's a very experienced videographer, having videoed his snorkeling dives a lot. He certainly spent lots of good money on his equipment.) By that experience, he would very well know how the camera must be treated to get good video. His camera-wielding behavior shows he was trying to make it appear as if the "conditions were..." as the pilot was later recorded to have said, "It was horrible." (Cough, choke.)
The pilot said it was so bad, "Once out of the plane ... he could not locate any of the cushions he had removed.”
These people were telling falsehoods left and right.
Contradicting the USCG, Rosa Key said afterward, "The water was rough. … The pilot was trying to get everybody together, but that’s kind of impossible because of the waves."
Yet, the reality was that several times over the course of almost an hour, the passengers somehow were able to get together, not merely loosely together, but even into a single frame of the videographers' lenses field of view (approximately 60 degrees), just as in posts #394, #253, and #247. This, ladies and germs is what is called a videographer's scripted choreography.
At trial, if a witness lies under oath --just once-- it's absolutely in order never again to trust anything that witness says.
I didn't say the mannequin's hair could only been seen in one frame, in context, I said the two of them (JK and Dolliana) being poised there was unique to that one frame that where we could seen the mannequin over Jake's right shoulder.
See that Jake's pony tail comes down to just the tops of his shoulders
... and note the colors and highlight's of Jakes hair in the sun!
but here:
we see flowing, non-water-straightened, undeniably red hair that comes down to the middle of his back, showing that what's in that picture cannot have been Jake's hair, PERIOD!
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