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Earth could become hotter than thought, study warns (clouds influence not correctly accounted for)
Yahoo News ^ | 4/8/16 | AFP

Posted on 04/09/2016 9:40:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Washington (AFP) - Global warming could make the planet far hotter than currently projected because today's scientific models do not correctly account for the influence of clouds, researchers said this week.

The study in the journal Science was led by researchers at Yale University and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

When climate scientists look ahead to how much the planet's surface temperature may warm up in response to a doubling of carbon dioxide -- a byproduct of fossil fuel burning -- they typically predict a rise of between 2.1 and 4.7 degrees Celsius (3.75 to 8.5 degrees Fahrenheit).

But these models overestimate the ability of clouds to reflect back sunlight, and counteract warming in Earth's atmosphere, researchers said.

"We found that the climate sensitivity increased from four degrees Celsius in the default model to five to 5.3 degrees Celsius in versions that were modified to bring liquid and ice amounts into closer agreement with observations," said lead author Ivy Tan, a researcher at Yale University.

The problem is most models assume there is more ice in clouds than there actually is.

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1 posted on 04/09/2016 9:40:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I.E. they forgot that water vapor is the major contributor to global warming. For which we should all be thankful!


2 posted on 04/09/2016 9:42:05 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: NormsRevenge
time to adjust the clock:


3 posted on 04/09/2016 9:45:21 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: NormsRevenge

Clouds = water vapor = 99% of the Earth’s greenhouse gases.


4 posted on 04/09/2016 9:46:04 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

We know they will be wrong, as they have been for the past twenty years or so.

There should be a betting pool on how wrong the D average dolts are.


5 posted on 04/09/2016 9:47:29 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NormsRevenge

Revelation 16
8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1196). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

Yup! It is going to get hot! ;-)


6 posted on 04/09/2016 9:48:26 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: kevcol

Why are they not calling for a boycott of China? They are the biggest polluters.


7 posted on 04/09/2016 9:48:36 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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Those “pesky” clouds......


8 posted on 04/09/2016 9:49:36 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m only curious to know how this is going to affect track temperature at Texas motor Speedway today


9 posted on 04/09/2016 9:52:20 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know)
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To: NormsRevenge
today's scientific models

Are tomorrows unscientific ones

10 posted on 04/09/2016 9:52:28 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Ever see any of those old Sci-fi movies where the guy goes to another planet, where the population is very backwards and superstitious, fearful of everything? He pulls out his lighter to have a smoke and they all thought he was God because he could make fire and blow smoke?

Yeah. This liberal horse shit is just like that. Count me among the unimpressed of the heathens. They really do think we are stupid, stupid, stupid.


11 posted on 04/09/2016 9:52:38 AM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Global warming could make (or could not make) the planet far hotter than currently projected..

The problem is most models assume there is more ice in clouds than there actually is (and that those making the assumptions have even the slightest clue about what they are talking about).

12 posted on 04/09/2016 9:52:38 AM PDT by JPG (Go Trump!)
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To: NormsRevenge

How incredible that this was published in Science.

Freaking SCIENCE, for God’s sake! What’s next for this fraud? PNAS?


13 posted on 04/09/2016 9:53:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: NormsRevenge
I thought lizard people would like the Earth to be more hot and humid.

14 posted on 04/09/2016 9:53:55 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Da Coyote

“We know they will be wrong, as they have been for the past twenty years or so.”

During the 1970s the media promoted global cooling alarmism with dire threats of a new ice age. Extreme weather events were hyped as signs of the coming apocalypse and man-made pollution was blamed as the cause. Environmental extremists called for everything from outlawing the internal combustion engine to communist style population controls.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html


15 posted on 04/09/2016 9:54:35 AM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: SubMareener

As they LIB..Let it Burn


16 posted on 04/09/2016 9:55:52 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: NormsRevenge

Someday not too long from now, the sun will scorch those that are left on earth (Rev. 16:8-9). But in a little over 1000 years,the earth will become a fireball (2 Peter 3:7; See also Rev. 20:11).


17 posted on 04/09/2016 9:56:03 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: NormsRevenge

Can I ask some stupid questions?

Does anyone really know how much man contributes to global warming, vs. how much is due to natural conditions which we have no control over?

There have been numerous ice ages in earth’s history? During the last ice age, Chicago was buried under a mile of ice. Wasn’t it actually beneficial that we had global warming since then, to make the northern hemisphere inhabitable?

And since these previous ice ages all happened before the industrial revolution, clearly man had not reached a point of creating pollution which liberals claim is behind glogal warming. The earth warmed in the past due to natural cycles, which we may not fully understand anyway.

Even if we accept the premise that there is global warming, are all of the consequences negative? For example, the midwest is a productive agricultural region. Yet they have long severe winters in the midwest. Wouldn’t that region be much more productive in agriculture, if we did have global warming??

Even if we accept the premise that we will see rising sea levels and all that, won’t these changes happen over a long period of time, even centuries, which would give us all plenty of time to adapt?

Even if we have to abandon some parts of coastal cities due to rising sea levels, won’t we adapt; would such an event really be the end of the world as we know it??

These are just some things which come to mind when the issue of global warming comes up. And some questions as I’ve noted here, seem to be questions which the liberals who push global warming have no coherent answers to.


18 posted on 04/09/2016 9:56:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Hate to get personal or ad hominem, but Valerie Jarrett is one strange looking woman.

Just as Mitch McConnell resembles a turtle, Valerie Jarrett seems to resemble a lizard.


19 posted on 04/09/2016 9:58:00 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kevcol
Global warming could make the planet far hotter than currently projected...

Must be that Michael Moore and Gore have their *oles open too wide again.

20 posted on 04/09/2016 9:58:35 AM PDT by Mr Apple (Congressman Barton speaks following Lakeview tour www.youtube.com/watch?v=59J0i3LNoY8)
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