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Trump supporters can (and I'm sure they will) attack the messenger, but they can't refute the point.

No amount of logic, no pointing out of obvious truths, no reminding of past positions, will sway them from their support of Trump. There is always an excuse, always a justification, always a reason why Trump's behavior is to be praised while even the allegation of similar behavior on behalf of Cruz is to be condemned.

As they saying goes; you can't reason someone out of a position that they did not arrive at with reason in the first place.

1 posted on 03/23/2016 4:12:27 PM PDT by Washi
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Uh oh, now you did it........Church of Trump to respond in....3....2....1....


2 posted on 03/23/2016 4:16:03 PM PDT by PROCON
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but they can't refute the point. I wouldn't even try to refute the point. It's just irrelevant. Trumps been a politician for 9 months. He say's anything prior to that was just business. I believe him I have faith in him. Probably the very same reasons why you want somebody else.
3 posted on 03/23/2016 4:17:49 PM PDT by Fhios (Going Donald Trump is as close to going John Galt as we'll get.)
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We’re long past thinking and persuasion here at FR. Everyone should let it be, take a deep breath, and get ready for the time we have to unite to beat Hillary.


4 posted on 03/23/2016 4:18:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (#JesuisCharlesMartel)
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Wow, a dumb Rush caller has really changed my mind. As a low information voter, I guess I could probably overlook Cruz having the backing of the GOPe, Bush endorsements, Bush staff members, hundreds of millions in super PAC donations, Cruz blaming Trump for leftist BLM mobs, Cruz blaming terrorist attacks on Trump’s NATO comments, and the Cruz campaign plan to “patrol and secure” Christian neighborhoods.

I’M SOLD! CRUZ/BUSH 2016!


5 posted on 03/23/2016 4:19:25 PM PDT by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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Trump supporters can (and I'm sure they will) attack the messenger, but they can't refute the point. No amount of logic, no pointing out of obvious truths, no reminding of past positions, will sway them from their support of Trump.

Thus my tagline...

6 posted on 03/23/2016 4:19:44 PM PDT by ETL (You can lead a Trump supporter to critical facts & info, but you can't make him/her think)
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I heard this and as usual folks will read into what he “meant”. Rush was having fun and going over the thought process....


8 posted on 03/23/2016 4:20:38 PM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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Exactly what I was thinking when I listened to Vinny.

Trump is a chameleon. EVERY fan I've heard articulate their support merely projects all their dreams of “hope and change” onto their "Sham-Wow" guy.
11 posted on 03/23/2016 4:22:23 PM PDT by marjiwoj
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Rush and you do exactly what he always says the left does. Assume that we’re idiots and we don’t know why we think what we think. We aren’t reasoned and our positions haven’t been thought through. Very condescending. I know what I believe completely and fully. I know why Cruz is a phony to me and i can explain it and have explained in thoroughly (If you care to know you can go over my comments). I’ve listened to Rush for years and now he tells me that I can’t come to reasoned decisions that differ from his own? Well, I’m sure if Cruz gets the nomination he’ll want people LIKE me to support him. I never will


13 posted on 03/23/2016 4:24:37 PM PDT by wiseprince
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I don’t support Cruz because he lied about not knowing he had Canadian citizenship.

That said, it doesn’t matter anymore. He lost. It’s impossible for him to win the delegates he needs.


15 posted on 03/23/2016 4:26:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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The adverisers for the eib are asking wtf? Rush has alienated 49% of his audience. Time to put rush in the retirement home.


16 posted on 03/23/2016 4:26:49 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Anyone who plans to win a nomination via brokered convention is a beta male.)
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Not picking sides, but Cruz has a slim to no chance of winning the nomination. Slim is headed for the door.

All the arguing serves but one purpose and her name is Hillary.


17 posted on 03/23/2016 4:26:53 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To prevent duplication, please do not alter the published headline, thx.


20 posted on 03/23/2016 4:27:40 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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No amount of logic, no pointing out of obvious truths, no reminding of past positions, will sway them from their support of Trump...Cruz.
22 posted on 03/23/2016 4:28:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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RUSH: He was the last! He was the last. He went longer than anybody not attacking!

Which as Ted told his donors was his plan all along. Coast in Donald's wake and pretend to be a friend, while Trump knocked the competition out, then attack just before the voting started. It worked to a degree, but in the end not.

24 posted on 03/23/2016 4:30:40 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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“As they saying goes; you can’t reason someone out of a position that they did not arrive at with reason in the first place.”

Yeah, I heard that call. It is one of Limbaugh’s favorite ploys — get a Trump supporter on the air that is not all there and bait him and hold him up to ridicule and try to claim that that caller is typical of all Trump’s supporters.

There was a Trump supporter that was on the air very early. He made sense, so Rush would hardly allow him to make his points, kept interrupting him. But he will give this type of caller unlimited time


25 posted on 03/23/2016 4:31:15 PM PDT by odawg
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Not what’s wrong with what Vinny said. Cruz cut his political teeth in Washington working for W. His wife is a partner with Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs secretly funded his Senate campaign. Cruz has spent his entire career in Washington and while he talks a good game, he’s delivered nothing ever except key votes for TPP, for Corker, etc. He’s 100% establishment and the proof is in the pudding with every member of the establishment lining up behind him as opposed to Sessions, Arpaio, Palin, etc., for Trump. Trump did show up at the 1988 Republican Convention and announced himself as a Conservative Republican. Is a doctrinaire ideologue who’s spent decades in the trenches? No, he’s a New York City real estate developer, and I’m fine with that.


26 posted on 03/23/2016 4:31:49 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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I consider myself an average Trump backer. I was skeptical at first, and I still have my doubts about him. But, the reason I support him is that I know exactly what we’ll get with Kasich, just more Bushism, he’ll push for amnesty, he won’t lift a finger to close the border, and he wants us to get into a war not only in the Middle East, but with North Korea as well.

As for Cruz, pretty much the same thing. I used to like him, but his alliance with Glenn Beck is a real turn off. His closeness with the Bushes, i.e., Neil Bush, the Jeb financial team, now the Jeb endorsement, no thank you. As far as I’m concerned, Bushism has to be uprooted and discarded, completely, and that includes Stealth Bushes.

Is Trump perfect, no. I don’t know exactly what he’ll do, and I’m sure I’ll be disappointed somewhere along the line, but I don’t know that for sure, so I’m willing to give someone who isn’t intimidated by the media, someone who isn’t swimming in special interest money, and someone who has actually created jobs, have a shot. I might be pleasantly surprised, and won’t be greatly disappointed. I held my nose and voted for Dole, Bush2 twice, McCain, and Romney, all of them were big fat ZEROES as far as I’m concerned.

So, Cruz supporters can call me LIV all they want, and point out Trump’s faults, but I don’t care. The only chance we have to uproot the Bushes is to get someone who isn’t a Stealth Bush.


27 posted on 03/23/2016 4:32:37 PM PDT by euram
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"As they saying goes; you can't reason someone out of a position that they did not arrive at with reason in the first place.

Uh oh, now you did it........Church of Trump to respond in....3....2....1....

LOL The Church of Trump almost has me giving up on FR forever.

You can lead a Trump supporter to critical facts & info, but you can't make him/her think"


GEE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND POSITIVELY TO OUR EFFEMINATE SNOBBERY AND BACK CRUZ!!
28 posted on 03/23/2016 4:32:37 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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. There is always an excuse, always a justification, always a reason why Trump's behavior is to be praised while even the allegation of similar behavior on behalf of Cruz is to be condemned.

That statement can work as easily by reversing the names. I don't hear Trump supporters like myself justifying Trump's poorer statements, but all I ever hear from Cruz supporters why it is great he has the Bush dynasty join his team or Romney support him even when Romney made clear he only wants a brokered convention.

When Cruz calls Trump supporter low information or not engaged it ok with you guys. If Trump said that about Cruz supports I would not justify it. You really fail to see how you excuse everything Cruz does that is not conservtive much less Christian.

29 posted on 03/23/2016 4:33:12 PM PDT by nclaurel
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constitutional conservative + cronyism

OR

populism without cronyism

the Constitution does not address cronyism which history demonstrates to lead to the eventual downfall of republics


33 posted on 03/23/2016 4:35:31 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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