Posted on 03/22/2016 3:16:40 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
Credit: University of Leicester. This model of King Richard IIIs grave shows the kings remains in-situ shortly after their discovery by University of Leicester archaeologists beneath a car park in Leicester in 2012. The model has been generated using Agisofts Photoscan from photographs taken during the excavation. If you would like to learn more about the search for King Richard III please visit www.le.ac.uk/richardiii.
Richard was not the last Plantagenet. He was survived by many, including his nephew (George’s son), his sister and others. But Henry 7 and Henry 8 eventually killed all of them. Margaret, his sister, survived because she was in Burgundy.
Hello, pig. See you’re up to your classy self.
In fact, I’ve studied Richard the Third for 40 years as well as English medieval history.
Yes, I admire this king who brought bail to the common people of England, limited the power of the barons and nobility so that ordinary people had access to game and fish and helped to bring literacy to ordinary people through the printing press. Actually, the Plantagenets were brilliant, educated people and all helped to introduce literacy to the common man. Richard also insisted that all laws be written into English, not Latin, and posted within site of ordinary people so that they knew their rights.
As Lord of the North, he was a beloved figure. Once he was petitioned to take the throne, he upset the nobility and the corrupt court of Edward the Fourth by getting rid of most of them. In his entire reign, he executed four men. Compare that to the Tudors who murdered hundreds - women as well as men. The Plantagenets did not believe in killing women. It was against the chivalric code. The only woman Richard abused was Elizabeth Shore who was a traitor. He made her walk through London at night, carrying a taper. That was it. He then allowed the beautiful Liz to marry his lawyer - although he wasn’t particularly happy about that.
He died fighting among his enemies with great courage and fortitude, unhorsing the 6’4” bodyguard to Henry Tudor with a single blow. Considering how slight (gracile) and short he was, an amazing achievement.
Now why don’t you crawl back into your porno magazines and cheese doodles and leave people who actually pay attention to interesting subjects alone.
I don’t either. Henry VIII was a loathsome piece of scum and the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree (Henry Tudor, aka Henry VII).
Please show me the evidence that Richard of York and Edward the 5th were murdered. Not even Dan Jones, Richard Starkey or the rest of the Tudor historians claim that the princes were killed. They suspect it, yes, but they cannot claim it. There is simply no evidence.
For the record I’m very fond of you - a true southern gentleman unlike some of the creeps around here.
Classy. Classy as always.
Just dripping with class and ever-so-much superiority.
Elementary, Mr. Watson. Deduction. Absence of barking.
I guess she told you, huh?
Heh.
No, he didn’t have a nail in his hand. A nail, of Roman origin, was found at his back. At first, people thought it was an arrow head. But it proved to be from the Roman period and was probably in the area when Richard was put into his shallow grave.
Phillipa Langley, the woman who started the search, is the secretary of the Scottish Richard the Third Society. She’s a screenwriter, not an historian. People have known for centuries his body was in the vicinity but historian John Ashdown-Hill and Langley studied medieval maps to identify his burial spot. They then petitioned the city of Leicester and the University to sponsor the dig. I, and thousands of others, contributed money to fund it.
Henry VIII was despicable.
Superiority is one of my main characteristics that I have over you. It’s like playing whack-a-mole.
Never dreamed a thread about a 600 year old dead king would stir a ruckus. Is it a Plantagenet vs. Tudor thing? :)
You have no evidence. Just supposition. In fact, we have two pretenders who came later, one who may have been Richard of York but I don’t tend to believe in pretenders although one very good historian (Ann Wroe) does. I believe they escaped to Gipping Hall (where they were seen with their mother after Richard ascended the throne) and then to Scarborough and then onto the continent. Not unusual for royal children to be shipped to the continent during upheavals. His brother, George’s kids, also made that journey in earlier times. But this is supposition as well.
No one wanted a child king after the disaster of Henry 6.
Now I know why you are a tRump supporter. You’re both arrogant, snotty and pretend to be superior.
Yes he was, but if you are of anglo descent like a big chunk of us, he probably has impacted our lives more than anyone person in history, outside of Christ, and William (1066 invasion).
You mean I possess knowledge that you don’t have because I read and study English medieval history? Or that I don’t suffer the ignorant and insulting pig who claimed I was “moist” about a long dead king? Which is it?
I meant the last Plantagenet King. Quite right that the Tudors set about making sure there wouldn’t be any more.
Yes, he was the last Plantagenet king.
She was his great great niece
Wow! Hope I never get on your wrong side. I’ll start digging my grave just in case.
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