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Donald Trump Secretly Told The New York Times What He Really Thinks About Immigration
Buzzfeed ^ | 2/29/2016 | Ben Smith

Posted on 02/29/2016 12:47:40 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian

The New York Times is sitting on an audio recording that some of its staff believes could deal a serious blow to Donald Trump who, in an off-the-record meeting with the newspaper, called into question whether he would stand by his own immigration views.

Trump visited the paper’s Manhattan headquarters on Tuesday, Jan. 5, part of a round of editorial board meetings that — as is traditional — the Democratic candidates for president and some of the Republicans attended. The meetings, conducted partly on the record and partly off the record in a 13th floor conference room, give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.

After a dispute over Trump’s suggestion of tariffs on Chinese goods, the Times released a portion of the recording. But that was from the on-the-record part of the session.

n Saturday, columnist Gail Collins, one of the attendees at the meeting (which also included editor-in-chief Dean Baquet), floated a bit of speculation in her column:

The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal. So you obviously can’t explain how you’re going to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants, because it’s going to be the first bid in some future monster negotiation session.

Sources familiar with the recording and transcript — which have reached near-mythical status at the Times — tell me that the second sentence is a bit more than speculation. It reflects, instead, something Trump said about the flexibility of his hard-line anti-immigration stance.

So what exactly did Trump say about immigration, about deportations, about the wall? Did he abandon a core promise of his campaign in a private conversation with liberal power brokers in New York?

(Excerpt) Read more at buzzfeed.com ...


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To: AuntB

“Are Cruz and Rubio going to release the same NY ‘off the record’ conversations?”

I want those, too.


141 posted on 02/29/2016 1:33:11 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Enlightened1

You need to add a graphic of trump attacking the tea party from the other side.


142 posted on 02/29/2016 1:34:22 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Outlaw76

“Odds are Trump has no idea what he said. He usually doesn’t. Cruz made that painfully obvious in the last debate.”

Possibly, but we know he knows what’s on it if Trump doesn’t release it, don’t we?


143 posted on 02/29/2016 1:34:24 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Where is Cruz pushing this? I just saw it on Google news.

Just heard Ted blathering about it in a radio news report.

144 posted on 02/29/2016 1:34:46 PM PST by Will88
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To: TheThirdRuffian
The most optimistic analysis of Trump as a presidential candidate is that he just doesn’t believe in positions, except the ones you adopt for strategic purposes when you’re making a deal.

Trump's worshippers are fully aware of that. That's how they explain away his all-over-the-map policy positioning over the years.

145 posted on 02/29/2016 1:36:08 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
They should care...

They don't.

146 posted on 02/29/2016 1:36:50 PM PST by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
The more I see of Trump, the more I hear about Trump, the more I might sit out this election if Trump gets the nomination. Or go 3rd party.

Of course, I am not excited about my other primary choices at this point, either.

147 posted on 02/29/2016 1:37:19 PM PST by BruceS
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To: Will88

Found it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/29/trump-foes-pounce-on-secret-tape-with-familiar-sounding-contents/

Will post in new thread.

Thanks!


148 posted on 02/29/2016 1:37:28 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: AuntB
Here's the trailer:

https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVySuudRW9soA4w9XNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10LTY5NARncHJpZANLell1WnpkR1FZV3o1YS4xU1BzaUdBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMxBG9yaWdpbgNzZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMwBHBxc3RyAwRwcXN0cmwDBHFzdHJsAzE5BHF1ZXJ5A0FzaCB2LiBFdmlsIHRyYWlsZXIEdF9zdG1wAzE0NTY3ODE4Mzk-?p=Ash+v.+Evil+trailer&fr2=sb-top-search&fr=yfp-t-694&fp=1

First season (on Starz) was fantastic

149 posted on 02/29/2016 1:37:35 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

RE: same deal we’d get from Rubio or Cruz.

Here’s the biggest difference:
Rubio will push for gang of eight v.2
Trump will push for a deal.
Cruz will enforce existing laws.

One of those things will take effect very quickly. The other two will take many months if not years.


150 posted on 02/29/2016 1:38:52 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Flick Lives

The 13th floor of the Times building is legendary as the home of the NYT’s columnists.


151 posted on 02/29/2016 1:38:53 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TheThirdRuffian

give candidates a chance to make their pitch for the paper’s endorsement.

Really?

Would Trump make a pitch for an endorsement from the NYT?

This smells...


152 posted on 02/29/2016 1:39:22 PM PST by Paisan
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Why would any Republican candidate want to get the NY Times endorsement?


153 posted on 02/29/2016 1:39:55 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; for-q-clinton

“But the bottomline was Donald can easily make this go away...just ask the Times to release the story.“

Just like the David Duke matter.

Trump is about to find out the “media” aren’t his friends anymore.


154 posted on 02/29/2016 1:39:56 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: corlorde
busy trying to be the Kennedy's Kardashians

FIFY

155 posted on 02/29/2016 1:40:04 PM PST by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: Flick Lives

Correct-I’ve never seen one-when I was about 6-7, and on the annual Christmas shopping trip to the city-we lived on a ranch-with my mom and aunt, we got into an elevator in a building and when I saw the floors numbered 12 then 14, I asked where the 13th floor was-my mom and aunt said it was believed bad luck to have a 13th floor-first time I’d ever thought about that.


156 posted on 02/29/2016 1:40:21 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Paisan
Would Trump make a pitch for an endorsement from the NYT?

During the primary, it's pretty much common practice.

157 posted on 02/29/2016 1:40:49 PM PST by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: Paisan

He’s a NYer. He probably thought they were his friends.


158 posted on 02/29/2016 1:40:53 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Flick Lives
"What building has a 13th floor?"

I've been in plenty of tall buildings (spent most of my life in Chicago) and I've never seen one without a 13th floor. I thought the "no 13th floor" thing was an urban legend.

159 posted on 02/29/2016 1:40:56 PM PST by Johnny B. (Donald Trump: the choice of the Jerry Springer generation!)
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To: Rational Thought

>> There is obvious coordination occurring between both campaigns <<

Could be. I wouldn’t doubt it a bit.

But such activity has absolutely no bearing on the issue — which is that either (a) Trump said something damaging on the tape, or (b) he did not.

Therefore, Trump needs to tell the NYT to release the tape, in order to show how Cruz and Company are playing dirty.


160 posted on 02/29/2016 1:42:01 PM PST by Hawthorn
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