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Trump’s obsession with WW2 generals strikes sour note with historians
oan ^ | February 25, 2016 | Emily Flitter

Posted on 02/25/2016 4:56:21 PM PST by sparklite2

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Presidential candidate Donald Trump admires the late Douglas MacArthur and George Patton, both World War Two generals. They were winners, unpredictable, and not especially nice guys, he says in campaign speeches. But Trump's pledge to imitate their styles sets modern-day military experts on edge.

Born in 1946, a year after World War Two ended, Trump often praises MacArthur and Patton for the blunt ways he says they commanded respect. "George Patton was one of the roughest guys, he would talk rough to his men," Trump told an audience last week in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. "His men would die for him," Trump added. "We don't have that anymore." He said Patton would wipe out Islamic State without hesitation were he still in command.

But military historians and retired generals say Trump has an inflated view of the two military men and especially their relevance to an era of modern warfare when armies rely more on technology and when battle successes and failures and civilian casualties are communicated far more rapidly than when MacArthur and Patton commanded troops 70 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at oann.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: tdsincomingbigtime; trump
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To: georgiarat

After Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghaniztan the military does not have leaders who know how to win anymore. They are just political butt kissers.


Yes.


61 posted on 02/25/2016 5:20:45 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: traderrob6

Apparently you are unfamiliar with LBJ, Billy Jeff, or the DiC currently there


62 posted on 02/25/2016 5:20:45 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouads)
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To: txnativegop
Grant left office in 1877. You want to blame him for Progressive Era legislation in 1913? Really. Are you sure it wasn't Bush's fault?
63 posted on 02/25/2016 5:20:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: txnativegop

So you would have preferred kinder, gentler generals?


64 posted on 02/25/2016 5:22:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: traderrob6

Lol...speak for yourself cupcake.


65 posted on 02/25/2016 5:22:13 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

‘... Gen. Patton would have never called his fellow Americans “losers, pussys, or murderous psychopaths” ...”

No, he called the guy a coward and smacked the hell outta him...

My dad served in the 93rd Div of the Third Army under Patton..He worshipped Patton...


66 posted on 02/25/2016 5:23:01 PM PST by JBW1949
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To: txnativegop

Personally, I hope Trump take this attitude with ISIS and all of islam, and last but not least, the illegals in this country.

I’m happy to hear the man talk this way, it’s about time!


67 posted on 02/25/2016 5:23:14 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: JBW1949

Props to your family.

Patton understood the need for pride.

Cost men their lives, but we STILL remember the relief of Bastogne and the 3rd Army’s dash across Germany. It would have been awesome if his men could have collared Adolf.

And that HE could have taken the fight to the Pacific.


68 posted on 02/25/2016 5:25:08 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: MarvinStinson

This is SLIME level ‘journalism.’

Use of the word “obsession” in the headline is standard procedure for the left wing, whose longtime, tired practice is to accuse anyone who opposes them of being mentally ill.


Then we’re truly screwed. The source for the article is One America News, the last “conservative” news outlet standing.


69 posted on 02/25/2016 5:25:47 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: sparklite2

Nonsense.


70 posted on 02/25/2016 5:27:50 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: JBW1949

Pardon my interruption.
Trump also rebuilt the Rockefeller Center skating rink?
I thought it was the Central Park one. Did he fix both?


71 posted on 02/25/2016 5:29:00 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Wollman Rink in Central Park  


72 posted on 02/25/2016 5:30:39 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

You are probably right...I knew it was in New York...That was the only one I remembered...

Thanks....


73 posted on 02/25/2016 5:30:46 PM PST by JBW1949
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To: sparklite2
But military historians and retired generals say

All of them unnamed in the article. Do you know who these geniuses are?
74 posted on 02/25/2016 5:31:17 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Of course it was Bush’s fault, don’t be silly! LOL

Grant’s administration was corrupt from top to bottom, as were many if not all administrations which followed. However, Grant’s term in office was the first presidential administration where the corruption was blatantly open for all to see.

This is historical fact, not personal assumption.


75 posted on 02/25/2016 5:32:06 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: PA Engineer

They were interviewed by Reuters, so who knows?


76 posted on 02/25/2016 5:32:29 PM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: txnativegop

77 posted on 02/25/2016 5:34:59 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: Hoodat

Heinz Guderian for me.

McArthur wasn’t all. Island hopping was far more effective. Patton was a very good field commander.


78 posted on 02/25/2016 5:35:01 PM PST by Leto
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To: sparklite2
Then we’re truly screwed. The source for the article is One America News, the last “conservative” news outlet standing.

Speak for yourself. It is a slime article. No sources and pure made up bovine excrement.
79 posted on 02/25/2016 5:35:41 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: sparklite2
....sets modern-day military experts on edge.

Russia expansionism; middle east meltdown; Chinese island-building; Europe overrun. So if these experts, who are supposed to foresee and forstall all these things, are squirming at the thought of a presidential candidate who will expect 'a little less talk and a lot more action', it's a good thing.

80 posted on 02/25/2016 5:36:11 PM PST by blueplum
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