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Trump Says Apple Should Hack San Bernardino Attacker Phone
ABC News ^ | 2/17/2016 | Ryan Struyk

Posted on 02/17/2016 8:49:09 AM PST by pgyanke

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump bashed the tech company Apple today for refusing to help investigators access the iPhone of a San Bernardino attacker.

"I agree 100 percent with the courts," he said on "Fox and Friends" this morning. "In that case, we should open it up."

"To think that Apple won't allow us to get into her cell phone -- who do they think they are?" Trump said. "No, we have to open it up."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2016election; apple; california; election2016; newyork; sanbernadino; sanbernardino; trump; waronterror
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To: doug from upland

The Queeah from Massachusetts seems to have a chip implant in his neck


101 posted on 02/17/2016 10:08:24 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Boogieman

1. Refusing to obey a court order.
2. Just cause.
3. Law west of the Pecos. I like.
4. 10 million bail, cash only.

LOL


102 posted on 02/17/2016 10:10:11 AM PST by biff
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To: bert

I wondered what that was.


103 posted on 02/17/2016 10:10:15 AM PST by doug from upland (Some of you keep telling yourself -- Romney would have been as bad or worse.)
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To: dfwgator


104 posted on 02/17/2016 10:10:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: Ransomed

See my post #97. It gives a good run down on the technical issues involved.


105 posted on 02/17/2016 10:11:57 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

I have a better idea than tapping into innocent folks’ phones. Keep the damn terrorists out of the country in the first place.


106 posted on 02/17/2016 10:13:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: kabar
The FBI wants Apple to alter the operating system just on Farook's phone to allow the FBI to bypass or disable the auto-erase function. It also wants Apple to alter the software to allow the test pass codes to be entered without punching the keys by using Bluetooth or other means to speed the process. And the FBI wants Apple to change the operating system to eliminate the delays caused by multiple attempts to unlock the phone.

Thanks for this info. This would give the FBI a copy of a compromised OS that they could load on to any compatible iPhone to breach its security. I hope Apple resists this demand.
107 posted on 02/17/2016 10:13:40 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dfwgator

LOL. Yeah right. In the meantime...


108 posted on 02/17/2016 10:14:03 AM PST by kabar
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To: BuffaloJack
Apple is not being asked to provide any help in decryption.
They are being asked to stop the phone from nuking itself after some number of failed attempts at guessing the password.

In other words, Apple is being asked to create a tool that would allow the phone's encryption to be broken using brute force techniques, when the phone was designed specifically to be protected from such brute force techniques.

The very creation of such a tool would risk compromising the security of every iphone Apple has sold.

109 posted on 02/17/2016 10:14:06 AM PST by zedee
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To: pgyanke

Apple hasn’t prevented anyone from getting into that phone, they have merely said you figure it out.


110 posted on 02/17/2016 10:14:53 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: biff

5. The right to privacy dies with the owner


111 posted on 02/17/2016 10:15:13 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: kabar

So terrorists will just find other ways to communicate if Apple does this. It makes us no safer.


112 posted on 02/17/2016 10:15:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: pgyanke

That’s BS, Trump is right - a specific crime, court order, open up the phone Apple. The information on that phone may save lives and prevent another attack.


113 posted on 02/17/2016 10:15:47 AM PST by relentlessly
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To: dirtboy
Last I checked, that was consistent with the Constitution which requires probable cause for a search warrant.

Who is the subject of the search warrant? The terrorists. It is their phone. Apple has neither ownership nor access. What the government wants to do is compel Apple, against their will, to help in the investigation by divining a backdoor to their customers' privacy. This will not stop with the one phone.

114 posted on 02/17/2016 10:29:27 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: manc
Apple is siding with the muslim terrorist...

Apple is siding with millions of their customers to whom they have promised absolute privacy... even from Apple. Any backdoor they develop is open to abuse by government (like that ever happens!) and hackers.

115 posted on 02/17/2016 10:32:34 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: AFreeBird
All of that is accurate, but Apple did not introduce the Secure Enclave until the iphone 6. According to various news reports, the terrorist phone in question was a 5C, so the Secure Enclave feature is not an issue here.

What that means is that the method the FBI has requested is technically feasible--Apple could create and install a version of iOS that gets around the security features designed to protect against brute force hacking. But that doesn't mean Apple should do so, or that it can be forced to do so.

116 posted on 02/17/2016 10:35:40 AM PST by zedee
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To: RoosterRedux
Trump’s point is that Apple can hack this one phone without giving the government a backdoor to ALL apple phones.

Apple's point is that ANY backdoor they develop is open to abuse... by anyone. They have removed themselves from their customers' private matters because that is what their customers want. They are protecting their customers.

117 posted on 02/17/2016 10:35:56 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: bjcoop
No. Apple is siding with terrorists.

Scenario: bjcoop sells his old car to a terrorist (unknowingly). The car is used in the commission of a crime. The government wants to get into the car without damaging anything to preserve evidence. They ask you for a key. You don't have a key... you didn't keep a key when you sold the car. Court orders you to find a way into the car.

This is an issue of liberty. The court is overreaching in ordering Apple to find a way they currently don't have a way to do. If Apple had the key, the court order would make sense. Lacking that, the court is saying, "Do law enforcement's job for them." No one can be so compelled in a free society.

118 posted on 02/17/2016 10:39:18 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: biff
1. Refusing to obey a court order.

Court orders biff to mow your neighbor's lawn. Do you comply or go to jail? This has the same weight. The court has ordered Apple to find a way to do something they currently don't have a way of doing.

119 posted on 02/17/2016 10:41:17 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: drypowder
I'm no legal techie but why doesn't the FBI just ask Apple to record what's on the phone and give the info to the FBI? Apple could then maintain the secrecy of their encryption codes.

Because Apple doesn't have the encryption key to the phone. The court is essentially ordering Apple to find a way to do what they currently have no way of doing.

120 posted on 02/17/2016 10:43:52 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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