Posted on 02/16/2016 10:19:42 AM PST by Signalman
Okay everybody, Scalia's death. Let's start it from another point of view. Let's say, God forbid, it's the most extremist justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who never should have been appointed, she was a former head of the ACLU, yet she was ushered in by the Republican RINO's who have destroyed America. Let's say, even though she's been sick with cancer for over 10 years, suddenly she goes to a remote resort in Texas, she eschews Secret Service, and she goes to sleep saying I'm tired at 9:00, she's found fully clothed in the morning with her pajamas on without a wrinkle on the bed, with her hands folded over her chest, with a pillow over her head. Question: do you think the left would be screaming foul play if a Republican were in office like Donald Trump and only a few months left to go? Do you think the left would be screaming that Donald Trump would have no right to appoint anyone to the Supreme Court? Do you think they would be demanding an autopsy and a full federal investigation?
Now let's begin the Savage Nation. Because that's exactly what happened yesterday with Justice Scalia. The question is, is it a conspiracy theory to ask questions that are so obviously in need of answer, or is it just common sense. And where is the common sense both in the press and the Republican Party. The answer is nowhere. And that's why I am Michael Savage.
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> You can look a Texas law regarding inquests and autopsies here.
I’ve done that.
I’ve reviewed news reports.
I have questions. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3397711/posts?page=143#143
As per the family’s instructions, and before being taken to VA-couldn’t do so lawfully without that. It is standard and the law in this state-nothing suspicious about that. How is that handled where you are?
> As per the family’s instructions, and before being taken to VA-couldn’t do so lawfully without that. It is standard and the law in this state-nothing suspicious about that.
Please clarify. What is per the family’s instructions? What couldn’t be done lawfully? What is “standard and the law in this state”?
The family would have had to okay embalming-and anyway, no remains can leave this state for someplace else without being embalmed-I had personal with that-when a relative lived and died here, but was to be buried in the state of his birth.
The family would have had to okay embalming-and anyway, no remains can leave this state for someplace else without being embalmed-I had personal with that-when a relative lived and died here, but was to be buried in the state of his birth.
She did not "declare the cause of death" until she filled out the death certificate.
It looks like she could have ordered an autopsy on her own volition or if ordered to by a DA, but no inquest or autopsy was required under Texas law. She would have had to go against the advice of the physician and the wishes of the family.
If she had been more of a conspiracy theorist, maybe it would have happened.
And your point is?
No pillow over his face. It was above his head. If he’d been suffocated, capillaries in eyeballs and eyelids would have burst.
The pillow story seems to have taken on a life of its own, but death by suffocation isn’t likely, as has been suggested.
Plus, contrary to some reports, he wasn’t hurriedly cremated. Body flown to DC where he will lie in state in Supreme Court great hall on Friday.
BUT, there are numerous other unanswered questions which ***might***
suggest foul play; the incompetent handling in the aftermath means we’ll probably never know.
If he was murdered, it was likely the CIA method mentioned on another thread: an injection that induces a heart attack, and the substance is undetectable afterward.
> It looks like she could have ordered an autopsy on her own volition or if ordered to by a DA, but no inquest or autopsy was required under Texas law.
An inquest was required and performed. See CCP 49.04(a)(6)
Why was no autopsy ordered? The death was unexpected and unwitnessed.
49.10(a) At his discretion, a justice of the peace may obtain the opinion of a county health officer or a physician concerning the necessity of obtaining an autopsy in order to determine or confirm the nature and cause of a death.
The judge did not obtain the opinion of a physician or county health officer to determine the necessity of an autopsy to determine or confirm the nature and cause of a death.
49.10(e)(1) A justice of the peace shall order an autopsy performed on a body if the justice determines that an autopsy is necessary to determine or confirm the nature and cause of death
The judge determined that an autopsy was not necessary to determine or confirm the nature and cause of death.
49.10(i) If a justice of the peace determines that a complete autopsy is unnecessary to confirm or determine the cause of death, the justice may order a physician to take or remove from a body a sample of body fluids, tissues, or organs in order to determine the nature and cause of death.
The Judge did not order a physician to take or remove from a body a sample of body fluids, tissues, or organs in order to determine the nature and cause of death.
49.11(a) A justice of the peace may obtain a chemical analysis of a sample taken from a body in order to determine whether death was caused, in whole or in part, by the ingestion, injection, or introduction into the body of a poison or other chemical substance. A justice may obtain a chemical analysis under this article from a chemist, toxicologist, pathologist, or other medical expert.
The Judge did not obtain a chemical analysis of a sample taken from the body.
The Judge did not speak to the decedent’s physician until 8 PM.
The Judge pronounced him dead at 1:52 p.m. on Saturday. [] Hours earlier, the county judge told WFAA that myocardial infarction - or a heart attack - would likely be the cause of death listed. http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/texas-news/scalia-to-have-autopsy-in-texas-according-to-state-law/42898331
On what basis did the Judge determine that myocardial infarction would likely be the cause of death listed? With out seeing the body? Without any medical examination? Without even speaking to the decedent’s personal physician?
A Marshall told her not to come. Why?
> She would have had to go against the advice of the physician and the wishes of the family.
If an autopsy is ordered by a Justice of the Peace or Medical Examiners as part of an death inquest the consent of the family is not required. See Texas CCP 49.31
source: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.49.htm
It isn’t a point-it is just the info as to why the embalming was done when it was-Scalia’s remains could not be moved to VA unless he was embalmed first.
This was a political assassination.
Something I never commented on, hence my question. I misinterpreted you statement.
I don’t know. All I am saying is that procedure was, at best, sloppily performed.
All I have are questions. Like why did a Marshall tell the Judge not to come? Who is the Marshall? Why didn’t the Judge go to the Ranch anyway? On what basis did she determine the likely cause of death? etc etc etc
Plenty of great questions you raised. Apparently Cinderela was the 3rd judge they tried to get to handle this. The first two passed because of other commitments. More likely they said to themselves “oh hell no I’m not getting involved in this mess with obama!”
I'm not sure if the things the JoP did count as an "inquest" or if one was required by 49.04(a)(6). It seems to me that Scalia's regular physician would count as an attending physician under Texas law.
Here's a definition from the Texas Attorney General's office:
"The words and phrases "attends," "attended by a physician," and "attending physician" in article 49.04 of the Code of Criminal Procedure mean a physician who is responsible for providing treatment and care at the time of a person's death." - link
The judge did not obtain the opinion of a physician or county health officer to determine the necessity of an autopsy ...
Yes, she did. She consulted the opinion of Scalia's regular physician in Washington who had seen him less than 48 hours before his death.
The Judge did not order a physician to take or remove from a body a sample of body fluids, tissues, or organs in order to determine the nature and cause of death.
This is likely true although I'm not sure if we know that for sure.
A Marshall told her not to come. Why?
According to her, the Marshall told her that it was not necessary for her to come.
It is a little weird that they did not speak until after the entire country knew that Scalia was dead. But since it was Saturday, perhaps the doctor was hard to reach. Maybe he wanted tine to do a little CYA.
"Rear Adm. Brian P. Monahan is the attending physician for Congress and the Supreme Court."
Apparently the Office of Attending Physician actually employs a group of doctors and has multiple clinics.
Malpractice suit raises questions about Congress doctor/150609777
Six hours after making her statement that MI was the cause.
> According to her, the Marshall told her that it was not necessary for her to come.
Yeah I know. I'm questioning why he told her that and why did she not ignore the Marshall - a Marshall who was not present at the time of the unwitnessed death.
Thank you for the link to the AG opinion.
The AG opinion is broad and could be taken to mean that all deceased persons who ever were cared for by a doctor would be considered “attended by a physician”.
How is a physician in Washington able to certify the cause of death of a person in Texas, 49.04(a)(7)?
Was Scalia expected to live only a few more days or months? And again, the consultation came at least six hours after the Judge’s statement so it could not have informed her statement.
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