Posted on 02/14/2016 9:47:13 PM PST by OneVike
I have been a member of FreeRepublic since February 1998, and in all my years I have ever seen so many Freepers support, and defend such a leftist candidate as Donald Trump. In the old days, any candidate that spouted the rhetoric coming out of his mouth would have been received with unanimous hatred from Freepers.
Mitt Romney was met with scorn when he claimed to have changed and was more conservative than his record showed. However, The Donald says the same thing and he is allowed to wear his liberal record as badge of honor, because he has been born again. Never mind that his fruit smells like Skubala. Any Republican candidate in the past who supported partial birth abortion was considered dead on arrival with 99.9% of Freepers. Yet a vast number of Freepers today look at Trump's defense of PP, and attack the candidate who dares to bring it up at a debate.
Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn't too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.
Interestingly enough, the ones I researched, all demanded that both Houses of Congress go after Planned Parenthood for selling baby parts. Many of them even demanded that the House use their power of the purse to defund PP. Yet these very same individuals defend, and make excuse for Trump's defense of said abortion factory, or at least claim it's bothersome but will still support him. These same individuals, however, were demanding McConnell resign for failing to pass legislation in the senate defunding PP. I did similar searches on their opinions of various other topics that Trump defends which would normally be cause of revulsion from these supporters had it been any other politician.
Well, I must admit that I am rather stunned by the way they have so easily changed their stances.
Who would have known that those who accused Jimmy Carter of never meeting a dictator and communist he didn't like, would now tout that his endorsement of Trump is not Trumps problem, and some even claim it will help him with Democrat voters in November. So we are now to welcome a politician that will get votes from leftists?
I thought the idea was to win them over to conservatism, not to abandon our beliefs just to get them to vote for our guy. So when will Freepers decide we need to change our stances on topics like "Black Lives Matter" to get more blacks to vote for our guy, or maybe we can find a good Muslim candidate who has made billions and talks a good game. Hey, so what if he may support Sharia law, just think of all those Muslim votes we can get from refugees Obama shipped in and we could actually own Dearborn Michigan. There has got to be some great female politicians who support PP that we could get behind, After all, we do have a problem with the female vote, right?
Yea, I'm just an old timer with old time values from the days when The Donald was still giving money to the Clintons and laughing at Republicans for making such a big deal over BJs in the Oval Office. Yup, just a geezer who remembers the wall of separation set up by Jamie Gorelick to keep Clinton from being prosecuted over Witewater which led to the attack on 9/11.
I guess I'm a conspiracy believer who thinks 9/11 was Clinton's fault, not GW's, and that the Weapons of Mass Destruction the NY Times finally admitted existed were originally sold to the public by the Clinton's to help get the Democrats on board for the war on Iraq.
Those were the good old days when we used to rip apart fake politicians for trying too hard to fit into our club, instead of ripping the messengers for noticing a fake when we see one.
Yea, that was before FreeRepublic jumped the Shark.
1. Jobs
2. Jobs
3. Jobs
Trump has created more jobs all by himself in the real and productive economy private sector than all 44 presidents COMBINED!
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3 things that motivate Cruz voters:
1. Constitution(al) Republic
2. Constitution(al) Republic
3. Constitution(al) Republic
If we lose our constitutional republic (and all that that implies), entropy will continue to ensue at a spiraling rate and nothing else -- neither jobs, health care programs, nor great walls with beautiful doors -- will matter. Without our foundation, the structure will crumble. It's really just a matter of how quickly it crumbles. Future generations will curse us if we get this wrong. They will only be able to read about the liberties citizens of the USA once enjoyed.
If you've convinced yourself that Trump will scale back the size, scope and reach of government, if you're comfortable in the knowledge that he will choose Supreme Court nominees who will adhere to the Constitution a written as opposed to a "living document," if you are assured in your heart that he would use such powers as eminent domain judiciously and not outside the purview of the intent of its use (and by implication, all other powers the government has), then support him with great enthusiasm. But you need to understand that there are millions of us who believe Trump is not to be trusted with such power based simply on his history. He has been all over the map on almost every issue. How could one possibly know which Trump they're getting if they decide he's the nominee?
Kindly post a citation demonstrating that Trump knowingly employs illegal aliens. He has stated over and over that he checks the backgrounds of his employees, and the only illegals I have heard about working for his projects are those who were hired by subcontractors.
Example: I live in an HOA community, and must pay dues every month for residents to behave generally appropriately and for maintenance. The Board hires a company that employs illegals to mow, mulch and snowblow. I imagine you believe I should pack up and move away, since my efforts at changing the Board's decision have not been successful; otherwise, Christ will reject me on Judgement Day?
The problem of illegals working in our economy is deeply entrenched, and for the past many years since Eisenhower, no administration has effectively moved to stop it. Even Reagan signed a big amnesty bill. Sincere efforts to stop it have been routinely thwarted by "right" lawyers and leftists. Holder and Oblameme have been egregiously thwarting any efforts to stem the tide. Now you want to point the finger at the one man who has dared to say, "It's harmful; let's stop it, and this is how we must go about it!"
Much of Trump’s support is thinly disguised racism against Mexicans and other of Hispanic descent, IMO. We can’t have a president with a Hispanic surname, you know.
Because he is a non-politician, and politicians have been a primary source of our troubles for about sixty years?
I unfortunately know a bit about PTSD also, and although it is not always the result of having “actual combat time” using it as an excuse for all manner of bad behavior turns what is a real problem for some people into a bad joke. On the other hand the media and the Democrats dragging Sarah’s kids into the political discussion is a low blow.
And minefields.
You Cruzbots are some of the most ignorant, overreaching people I’ve ever encountered. Some have bricks between their ears, so, why bother trying to reason with those who are unteachable, know-it-alls?
Enjoyed your About Page photos. The last one (67 yd. FG) wasn't visible for me, though. I hope that prickly golfer isn't you.
If I were going to build a wall to keep out illegals I would build it away from the river maybe 5 or 10 miles inside Texas. Which entry points at existing roads. No way would I build at the physical border. Except in densely populated areas, there I would build it at the border.
Let's see a pic of your kids, so we can compare them to Don Jr and Ivanka.
Let's see your CV, so we can get a sense of proportion vis a vis Trump's career.
And most importantly, let us know what public offices you've run for, which campaigns you've donated to and how much, and what you've done in defense of American values.
Then we'll know how qualified you are, to smear Donald Trump.
Okay, you're joking, right? You really don't understand that American citizens have the right and responsibility to make assessments about their politicians?
Ladies and gentlemen, you have a prime example right here of the reasoning abilities of a good many of the Trump supporters. Here's one who's decided that a U.S. citizen who criticizes Donald Trump is out of line and has listed various reasons why that's so. Besides Byron's obvious intolerance for a differing POV, there's another thing driving his actions and that's the complete disregard for the First Amendment. It would look like Byron thinks the only time you can criticize a candidate is if you meet certain standards. He has spelled out his criteria that would grant a U.S. citizen the right to speak out against a candidate, but what would happen if another individual had a different set of criteria for speaking out? What indeed.
Here's an idea. Let's stay with the first amendment and let OneVike, me and others voice our opinions about Trump's ineptitude and disingenuousness. Trump can either put on his big boy pants and deal with it or he can stay up all night and post whiny tweets that he's being treated unfairly.
BTW, did anyone notice how Trumpian Byron was in his response to OneVike's post? His response had all the earmarks of a Trump tweet: flailing personal attacks. Ah yes, he serves his master well.
Lets see, RCP had The Donald losing to HC by 4.7 % but has Cruz beating HC by .2 %
I’ll go with the guy who has a 4.9 % better chance than the orange oompa loompa.
Point take,
That’s why I put the word in quotations. They call themselves that, but aren’t
I’ll give Cruz credit for having two sentences about amnesty and illegal immigration in his presidential announcement speech. Illegal immigration, building a wall, and deportation were not a main themes of his campaign at that time.
Yes.
FR has always been colorful, had its share of eccentrics and plenty of verbal dueling especially during primaries but its always been conservative.
This season it’s veered into Moonbat territory with the conspiracy theories, Christian bashing, defense of big government, etc.
If I’d just landed on FR today, I’d think it was a progressive web site based on much of the commentary.
LOL excellent comment!
I guess since you missed the many time he has spoke on it you are just ignorant of the facts. He is the only candidate that has stated repeatedly that Common Core will be gone on the first day.
Ignoring what he has actually said shows a disdain for reason.
Posting a comment that is factual but inaccurate in its conclusion is a lie because it is meant to mislead, you quote a fact that does not include the context and it is just a plain lie period. Headlines are often posted here that clearly are designed to mislead the reader.
Hang tough. There’s an Invasion of the Body Snatchers virus about. People whose conservatism had cracks and flaws were vulnerable to trumpfection. Our scientists are working (in the private sector, of course) to try to find a cure for this virus before it’s fatal to the body politic.
I remember back in 2008, a purge of members who defended Rudy Giuliani, in many cases, rightfully so, as some of the attacks were nothing but slander. I doubt there is much difference in most political views between Trump and Giuliani but a world of difference in temperament.
I'm afraid that a lot of people have surrendered to anger rather than rational thought. When was the last time you made a good decision when angry?
IMO, Donald Trump is our Jesse Ventura. Unfortunately, despite the obvious signs, many will not perceive his incompetence until he inflicts it on our country for four years. Like Ventura, Trump has all the earmarks of a disaster waiting to happen.
I credit his popularity to an irrational hunger for ‘red meat’....and he dishes it out in huge servings.
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